Why siths are so dumb in the game?

[FALKE]

WARNING! THERE CAN BE STORY SPOILERS!

Well... I just start playing The sith warrior story, but after 20 hours (cuz i was doing a lot of secondary quests) of playing I have a question:

WTF Siths are loving to kill each others by C/D?

Honestly, all you have to do in this story are: Kill sith lords... Kill emperial spies, kill more sith lords and their family members, kill some more emperial spies, kill your master, kill Sith apprentice, kill first sith clan, kill the other one, and kill other tons of sith looks like enemies. When TF will i start killing some republic forces or something?!

From the start your master says you to kill Vermit (or what ever that apprentice was called), after that your lord says you to kill that master....
BUT! If you would kill that unlucky assassin that was in a cage with 2 other prisoners, your lord would say that you mustn't do that, because she would be usefull for the Empire. Where can i find the answer, like: ''Dude are you high or something?''. Because Darth Baras will order you to kill sooooo many apprentices, empire spies and other sith lords that any jedi (or the whole jedi council) could even imagine. And they could be usefull too...

Maybe i don't know something about siths??? Because i was just watching "SW: Clone wars" cartoon series and some youtube videos. But anyway you are at the war with the Republic...

But instead of haunting some padawans or their jedis, i am killing siths.... And only after 20 hours of playing i am about to fight some padawan. BUT! Before that, you have to kill another Baras empire spy, that's talking too much.
Honestly this is getting annoying... I can turn a blind eye on that just OVERMASSIVE sith killing, but farming the same looking (or pretty similar) enemies is getting really really boring. All i see is Siths and Empire forces are fighting each others or vs some creatures...

Is this game about The Empire against the Republic or it is about "Empire Civil war"?

[Scheneighnay]

Story choices seem to be asinine in general, as well as dark side dialogue choices 75% of the time.

Seems like the writers decided "dark side" meant "brainless edgelord"

[FALKE]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Story choices seem to be asinine in general, as well as dark side dialogue choices 75% of the time.

Seems like the writers decided "dark side" meant "brainless edgelord"

Yes! This's what i am talking about!

Like, We are bad, because we are bad and, beacause we are siths. So we are killing, because we are bad, because we are siths.....

If the same authors would write SW: Clone wars the cartoon, Count Dooku would kill Asajj Ventress and all other allies, so there would be no job for jedis xD

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by MEMEME:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Story choices seem to be asinine in general, as well as dark side dialogue choices 75% of the time.

Seems like the writers decided "dark side" meant "brainless edgelord"

Yes! This's what i am talking about!

Like, We are bad, because we are bad and, beacause we are siths. So we are killing, because we are bad, because we are siths.....

If the same authors would write SW: Clone wars the cartoon, Count Dooku would kill Asajj Ventress and all other allies, so there would be no job for jedis xD

How the dark side works in the movies: Anakin kills not just the sand-men, but the sand-women and sand-children too

How the dark side works on SWTOR: Anakin helps the sandpeople kill his mom

[Atomicbean]

This is the entire point of the Sith Empire story overall, and the reason the Rule of Two was implemented by Darth Bane... significantly after the events of this game.

I personally think that the Inquisitor and IA stories do a bit better of a job, but the post-chapter 3 Ilum/Malgus arc + Imperial Makeb, also do a pretty good job of it for all classes and factions.

The empire, despite their overwhelming combat and strategic advantage due to having next to no morals, ultimately "loses" the war because of in-fighting and sith culture - that's quite literally the point of this game's empire story. It's why half of the late-game characters, and literally the entirety of the Inquisitor and Ashara story, are based around trying to reform the empire. Because it just... doesn't work.

[Sunny]

Yeah, as mentioned above, Sith stupid is why the Empire hasn't won the war yet. If they had all the advantages they do, and none of the in-fighting, it would be no contest...but they're REALLY bad at cooperation.

[ToxicMushroom]

my grip with the empire, despite i always being on that side,-
is that for the sake of plot armor and the good guy always have to win,- the empire well never fully get the upper hand when half the time they clearly and logically should ,.-

there is except /moments to this

there is except /moments, where the republic wins -

but if we take the rule of 2 , is absolutely , dumb -
yes, there might be lets say 500 sith around the galaxy , ,living 2 by 2 . as the rule of 2 state -
but makes no sens what so ever, - and you can clearly become vary powerful, , despite have a ,- lets say , a hard core training camp ground for sith ,
there is more to this -. but still ..my 2 cents

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by ToxicMushroom:

my grip with the empire, despite i always being on that side,-
is that for the sake of plot armor and the good guy always have to win,- the empire well never fully get the upper hand when half the time they clearly and logically should ,.-

there is except /moments to this

there is except /moments, where the republic wins -

but if we take the rule of 2 , is absolutely , dumb -
yes, there might be lets say 500 sith around the galaxy , ,living 2 by 2 . as the rule of 2 state -
but makes no sens what so ever, - and you can clearly become vary powerful, , despite have a ,- lets say , a hard core training camp ground for sith ,
there is more to this -. but still ..my 2 cents

I was thinking the same thing.

Why not just place a ban on Sith having more than 1 apprentice at a time rather than nuking the entire order.
Of course the answer is it's cooler plot-wise.

[ToxicMushroom]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by ToxicMushroom:

my grip with the empire, despite i always being on that side,-
is that for the sake of plot armor and the good guy always have to win,- the empire well never fully get the upper hand when half the time they clearly and logically should ,.-

there is except /moments to this

there is except /moments, where the republic wins -

but if we take the rule of 2 , is absolutely , dumb -
yes, there might be lets say 500 sith around the galaxy , ,living 2 by 2 . as the rule of 2 state -
but makes no sens what so ever, - and you can clearly become vary powerful, , despite have a ,- lets say , a hard core training camp ground for sith ,
there is more to this -. but still ..my 2 cents

I was thinking the same thing.

Why not just place a ban on Sith having more than 1 apprentice at a time rather than nuking the entire order.
Of course the answer is it's cooler plot-wise.

or that maybe,- but it just seams dumb if 2 powerful sith , wants the same goal, but dont like there is 2 - when they could just sit 2 -5 galaxy apeart, and no need to kill each other ..
of course this can be explain more deeply but just simple put
..
this is often the scenario "
but no, the 1 sith bob wants to kill peter, so he can be stronger , instead of just go to some hardcore place and train ,- then peter with bob, despite dislike among them is at least 5 times stronger then that 1 guy would be, if he killed him

[Scheneighnay]

Originally posted by ToxicMushroom:

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

I was thinking the same thing.

Why not just place a ban on Sith having more than 1 apprentice at a time rather than nuking the entire order.
Of course the answer is it's cooler plot-wise.

or that maybe,- but it just seams dumb if 2 powerful sith , wants the same goal, but dont like there is 2 - when they could just sit 2 -5 galaxy apeart, and no need to kill each other ..
of course this can be explain more deeply but just simple put
..
this is often the scenario "
but no, the 1 sith bob wants to kill peter, so he can be stronger , instead of just go to some hardcore place and train ,- then peter with bob, despite dislike among them is at least 5 times stronger then that 1 guy would be, if he killed him

Bob wants to kill Peter not to get stronger, but because he wants Peter's job.

[FALKE]

Well... I was so happy that i could play as a "Dark side". So i would be able to beat some jedis pretty faces, but instead of that i am beating some sith's faces with empire squads. You know, I’m something of a jedi/the republic myself xD

[ToxicMushroom]

Originally posted by Scheneighnay:

Originally posted by ToxicMushroom:

or that maybe,- but it just seams dumb if 2 powerful sith , wants the same goal, but dont like there is 2 - when they could just sit 2 -5 galaxy apeart, and no need to kill each other ..
of course this can be explain more deeply but just simple put
..
this is often the scenario "
but no, the 1 sith bob wants to kill peter, so he can be stronger , instead of just go to some hardcore place and train ,- then peter with bob, despite dislike among them is at least 5 times stronger then that 1 guy would be, if he killed him

Bob wants to kill Peter not to get stronger, but because he wants Peter's job.

fair then ,- but it seams like they never try , to just get them demoted or better then them at their job, so bob gets the job, with out wasting potential

[CrackeR]

I will pit my Sith Assassin against you anytime and lets see how dumb Sith's can be! :P

[FALKE]

Originally posted by CrackeR:

I will pit my Sith Assassin against you anytime and lets see how dumb Sith's can be! :P

Ummm.... Where is the sonnection between boring story mode for sith warrior classes and PvP mechanics in the game? 0_o

[Dethlane]

Hence why they've made a rule of two later

[life4trinity]

You're in the Sith Empire, not the Galactic Empire or Separatist Alliance and it's been over 3000 years, so comparing TOR to TCW is kinda silly because things change. Sith rivalries were very common during this era and you even see it happen during the prequels. Why? Because they are creatures of competition who thrive on killing others. That's why you see them killing each other because the Sith are hopeless and want power. It's also the reason for apprentices killing their masters and vice versa because one must "win".