not paying $60 upfront for a game with a battlepass that requires additional buy-in ; is there no limit to corpo greed?

[CY13ERPUNK]

vampire survivors - devs makes simple game and sells it for low price , it EXPLODES in popularity and makes millions , so much so that it kick-starts the start of a new genre obsession within the marketplace

warframe - brings the looter/shooter/slasher into f2p and becomes the genre defining title , ten years going strong atm , making millions in profits , with dozens of competitors trying to outclass it , all have failed to-date [with destiny arguably being the one solid contender over the years]

exoprimal - $60 initial price tag and 70+ worth of additional day1 dlc purchases [why arent these included in the base game? cuz ♥♥♥♥ you that's why , low player count community struggling to hang on

there is an obvs market trend here , regardless if your game is a simple VampSurv clone or 3rd person graphical powerhouse , the lower the barrier to entry , the larger the playerbase , ie the larger the body of potential customers to sell ingame microtrans to

why exoprimal was not designed/marketed as a f2p game , ala warframe , i do not understand XD , i guess the decision makers at Capcom didnt like this dev-team and didnt want to make any big money on this project , but that seems ironic doesnt it?

[Saica-Fox]

you forgot to mention every other AAA game that does all these tings lol go cry somewhere else. Except the fact other people enjoy games

[Diddy Kong Racing]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Saica-Fox:

you forgot to mention every other AAA game that does all these tings lol go cry somewhere else. Except the fact other people enjoy games

I'm enjoying the game too, but that doesn't change the fact that season passes are scummy.

[Saica-Fox]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Saica-Fox:

you forgot to mention every other AAA game that does all these tings lol go cry somewhere else. Except the fact other people enjoy games

I'm enjoying the game too, but that doesn't change the fact that season passes are scummy.

scummy they are the literally industry standard and its not a season pass its a battle pass this game has those 2 things are different

[Diddy Kong Racing]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Saica-Fox:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diddy Kong Racing:

I'm enjoying the game too, but that doesn't change the fact that season passes are scummy.

scummy they are the literally industry standard and its not a season pass its a battle pass this game has those 2 things are different

Something can't be scummy if it's an industry standard?

[Sharkle_Bunwich]

Oh my god, wah wah wah. The premium battle pass is all cosmetics. It's purely optional. No one cares if you disagree with it.

[The Sprinkler]

Xbox player here. Yeah, $60 is too much for a cheap ass $20 game you could find on the Nintendo Switch. Seriously, there was a game almost just like this.
You're better off playing Second Extinction for a more fulfilling game than this shovelware.

[Shark Boy]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Saica-Fox:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Diddy Kong Racing:

I'm enjoying the game too, but that doesn't change the fact that season passes are scummy.

scummy they are the literally industry standard and its not a season pass its a battle pass this game has those 2 things are different

Season Passes are only an industry standard because of people who didn't value their money enough to realize spending an extra $30 for content that should have been in the base game wasn't a great idea.

[Shocks]

you forgot to mention:
1. you count the season pass as DLC
2. You dont need the starter pack, you unlock them by leveling
3. The rest are SKINS ONLY...

Go cry somewhere else about anything but NOT this useless cry xD

[Inuakurei]

Good, you shouldn't. Just play it on gamepass if you want.

[Zouls]

The game has 10 dollar season pass that is purely cosmetic, can be unlocked through playing reasonably (its a 3 month pass and im already halfway through), gets constant exp, is not locked by daily missions and you cant buy levels for real cash.

Its probably one of the best examples of battlepasses done right. And the dlc packs are just recolors of skins you can buy in the game, which are just purchasable through steam which makes it seem worse, as supposed to diablo 4 20 dollar skins that rotates to increase fomo here they are 5 euro for a legendary skin that you can buy as you please.

[Shocks]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zouls:

The game has 10 dollar season pass that is purely cosmetic, can be unlocked through playing reasonably (its a 3 month pass and im already halfway through), gets constant exp, is not locked by daily missions and you cant buy levels for real cash.

Its probably one of the best examples of battlepasses done right. And the dlc packs are just recolors of skins you can buy in the game, which are just purchasable through steam which makes it seem worse, as supposed to diablo 4 20 dollar skins that rotates to increase fomo here they are 5 euro for a legendary skin that you can buy as you please.

Funfact: Player level 94 is battle pass lvl 50.
Just unlocked it today already^^ So ye, 3 months should be possible.
Who plays less than 50h in 3 months?

[Zouls]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Shocks:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zouls:

The game has 10 dollar season pass that is purely cosmetic, can be unlocked through playing reasonably (its a 3 month pass and im already halfway through), gets constant exp, is not locked by daily missions and you cant buy levels for real cash.

Its probably one of the best examples of battlepasses done right. And the dlc packs are just recolors of skins you can buy in the game, which are just purchasable through steam which makes it seem worse, as supposed to diablo 4 20 dollar skins that rotates to increase fomo here they are 5 euro for a legendary skin that you can buy as you please.

Funfact: Player level 94 is battle pass lvl 50.
Just unlocked it today already^^ So ye, 3 months should be possible.
Who plays less than 50h in 3 months?

cant tell if sarcasm but i think that seems reasonable? thats about 4.1 hours per week, but without timers so you could do 20 hours in one week and none in another.

[0wnz0r]

nothin requires additional buy in. the pass is purely cosmetic fluff. u unlock everythin worthwhile in its base game.

[Mr Holiday]

Opprinnelig skrevet av 0wnz0r:

nothin requires additional buy in. the pass is purely cosmetic fluff. u unlock everythin worthwhile in its base game.

Isn't cosmetic fluff, it's withdrawn development for extra profits.

Time was spent on the design and development of a battlepass specifically designed for 30% free, 70% paid requirement.

Battlepasses are a practice for additional profits, that take away from the core game cosmetics, and we shouldn't be indoctrinated into the idea that this design is ok.

Pretend Zelda Tears of the Kingdom had a battlepass (BP), now imagine how many cosmetics are in that game for each armor set.
First they remove gimmick sets (Yiga, Skeleton, etc) in favor of BP extras,
Next then they remove challenge armor sets (dark knight, Colosseum masks, time trials, etc),
Finally their battlepass needs a real Show stopper level 100 cosmetic in Season 2, 3, etc., they remove the Endgame armor sets (Ganon, fiery god, ancient hero set, dark link, depths set, evil spirit, etc).

It's a degenerative effect, that tricks people into being compliant to base level content, and replacing god-tier difficult challenge rewards with a casual design, when it probably deserving of endgame style cosmetics.

[JamesTBG]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Saica-Fox:

you forgot to mention every other AAA game that does all these tings lol go cry somewhere else. Except the fact other people enjoy games

I'm enjoying the game too, but that doesn't change the fact that season passes are scummy.

Only if you suffer fear-of-missing-out ... so dont make your problems the problem of others.