Where are nukes?

[Joe Rogan]

Title. I thought this is cold war going HOT

[Mmarchi]

Its Joe Rogan!

[Joe Rogan]

I've talked to some people who also want nukes to be part of the base game. It makes complete sense. Why should YOU guys tell me what is fun and what is not, i want realistic cold war gone hot setting and that comes with nuclear torpedos and alike.
I honestly find it disgusting that you would tell me how should i enjoy the game and what is fun and what is not fun. Nuclear weapons are major part, mayber even THE MAIN PART of cold war and it's ommision is detrament to gameplay.
I find it funny that you think nuclear torpedo is not tactical but P-700 Granit a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ flying schoolbus that outranges anything is OKEY because it's just explosives, despite the resolution being the same as with nukes, point, click, win. Arguably Granit is more "strategic weapon" then a nuclear tiped torpedo.
Also i think people here overestimates the power of nuclear tipped torpedos as the "killzone" of nuclear torpedo is a meager 1-2km (about 1 mile).

[Trentscousin]

Nukes and their ilk's use should fall into the domain of a modder (for free and funs), or $pecialized DLC for $$$ from the Dev. creating a scenario where they would even make sense.

One or the other, as it cannot, without destroying immersion, be implemented into the current game setup.

Period.

[Joe Rogan]

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What part of that do you not understand?

What part says "we are not adding nukes"?
Am only asking where/when are they. What don't you understand you phony

[sandrastarling]

Go watch Dr. Strangelove and get over your fear of the bomb (Nuke). If it was there IRL then it should be in game. Plenty of options to NOT have nukes in your custom mission - Like just don't include them or allow them to be disabled in the options.

See it's a win/win.

I want to make a sub hunter mission where if you don't find them in time, then it's big boom boom.

[MekStark]

Simply put we do not consider them as crucial addition that would benefit the overall theme of the game. As those are possibly fun for first three usages those aren't viable feature to dedicate resources into developing now. We won't rule them out but they are non-trivial to implement on technical level and it's something we wouldn't be looking at until at least post 1.0 rlease

[sandrastarling]

MekStark の投稿を引用：

Simply put we do not consider them as crucial addition that would benefit the overall theme of the game. As those are possibly fun for first three usages those aren't viable feature to dedicate resources into developing now. We won't rule them out but they are non-trivial to implement on technical level and it's something we wouldn't be looking at until at least post 1.0 rlease

I do agree that they are not as important now this early. Other things need attention but it's nice to know you may consider them eventually.

[Joe Rogan]

MekStark の投稿を引用：

Simply put we do not consider them as crucial addition that would benefit the overall theme of the game. As those are possibly fun for first three usages those aren't viable feature to dedicate resources into developing now. We won't rule them out but they are non-trivial to implement on technical level and it's something we wouldn't be looking at until at least post 1.0 rlease

Thank you for clarifying. Some mentioned that "the devs are distinctly against having nuclear weapons in the game." I also see it as a low priority, to be honest. However, implementing nuclear flashes, visual effects, and EMP nuclear jamming seems like a big task to leave to mods. I’d appreciate it as part of the base game for the reasons I mentioned earlier: a relatively small kill zone, its tactical nature, and its significance as a period-defining weapon.

[Lanner]

Joe Rogan の投稿を引用：

I've talked to some people who also want nukes to be part of the base game. It makes complete sense. Why should YOU guys tell me what is fun and what is not, i want realistic cold war gone hot setting and that comes with nuclear torpedos and alike.
I honestly find it disgusting that you would tell me how should i enjoy the game and what is fun and what is not fun. Nuclear weapons are major part, mayber even THE MAIN PART of cold war and it's ommision is detrament to gameplay.
I find it funny that you think nuclear torpedo is not tactical but P-700 Granit a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ flying schoolbus that outranges anything is OKEY because it's just explosives, despite the resolution being the same as with nukes, point, click, win. Arguably Granit is more "strategic weapon" then a nuclear tiped torpedo.
Also i think people here overestimates the power of nuclear tipped torpedos as the "killzone" of nuclear torpedo is a meager 1-2km (about 1 mile).

It'd be vastly more difficult to realistically model nuclear naval weapons than a missile with a simple high explosive warhead. Most of their destructive potential comes from the follow-on effects of the nuclear detonation itself (pressure wave, radiation burst, resulting sea state, irradiated equipment etc)(especially subsurface detonations).

I'd much rather see devs work on new scenarios and campaigns, additions to the unit roster, active mine warfare (minelaying/minesweeping), the ability to rescue survivors at sea, the ability for ships to render damage control assistance to other ships, more realistic implementation of CEC capabilities. I could go on. Nukes would be cool but there are so many other things I'd rather see in game first. I don't mind if devs never get around to 'em tbh

[Chinese_Pizza]

There's several NUKE games out there for you kiddies who want to play in La La land. For the rest of us, we'll enjoy the NON NUKE strategy that this games was meant to be.

[Wong_Wei]

Intimidator の投稿を引用：

Clearly a tactical game!!

No nukes needed or wanted.

Tactical nukes are a thing.

[follker71]

Chinese_Pizza の投稿を引用：

There's several NUKE games out there for you kiddies who want to play in La La land. For the rest of us, we'll enjoy the NON NUKE strategy that this games was meant to be.

Thank you for your much needed leadership in explaining to us how to enjoy the game we payed for. What would we do without you?

Can you help us with our other games as well? Is it permissible to enjoy stealing cars in GTA? How about flying IFR in MSFS2020? I mean, I don't have a real IFR license, can I still have fun flying in bad weather...please I beg you, teach me how to correctly play my steam library.

[Bobby]

Remember the nukes in Jane’s F-15. Fantastic mission builder too.
Oh and for the uninitiated/pedantic , it was a B-52 in the mission builder

[Radioshow]

NUKES WONT be added to the game. That will be mods only.
Nukes are overkill and useless in this game other than for wow factor.
Start game, launch nukes, game over. Nuclear weapons would also be used as a last resort, not something to be used indiscriminately. Same reason they are not in Warno. Out of scope and not much use in the context the game is in.

Besides the fact most naval units had no nukes anyway besides a few rare cases.

[Joe Rogan]

Radioshow の投稿を引用：

NUKES WONT be added to the game. That will be mods only.
Nukes are overkill and useless in this game other than for wow factor.
Start game, launch nukes, game over. Nuclear weapons would also be used as a last resort, not something to be used indiscriminately. Same reason they are not in Warno. Out of scope and not much use in the context the game is in.

Besides the fact most naval units had no nukes anyway besides a few rare cases.

yeah no

" We won't rule them out but they are non-trivial to implement on technical level and it's something we wouldn't be looking at until at least post 1.0 release"