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Sea Power

Liberty Nov 29, 2024 @ 1:21pm
torpedo evasion ?
i keep trying to evade torpedoes with my destroyers in pact scenarios but it seems like its impossible to survive. doesnt matter what i do but torpedo always goes for the target.... i even tried to spam my own torpedoes around , shoot depth charges... everything to try to confuse torpedo sonar but its no use....
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Lanzfeld Nov 29, 2024 @ 1:42pm 
If they are Wake Homing (WH) try cutting your engines to zero
Originally posted by Lanzfeld:
If they are Wake Homing (WH) try cutting your engines to zero

The NATO torps are typically wire-guided.
Lanzfeld Nov 29, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:
Originally posted by Lanzfeld:
If they are Wake Homing (WH) try cutting your engines to zero

The NATO torps are typically wire-guided.

and cats like wet cat food.
supersound99ss Nov 29, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Lanzfeld:
Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

The NATO torps are typically wire-guided.

and cats like wet cat food.
And Russians don't take a dump without a plan...
Liberty Nov 29, 2024 @ 4:07pm 
in other words torpedo in the water is basically unavoidable..... okay... then i dont see a point of that scenario lol
Last edited by Liberty; Nov 29, 2024 @ 4:07pm
Tero Nov 29, 2024 @ 4:51pm 
Which scenario is it? If it's the "Hunters or Hunted?" scenario then you start the game lined up against a Sturgeon who is within range to immediately fire Mk-48 torpedoes which are very difficult to evade. I can almost guarantee that within moments of that scenario starting at least one torpedo will be headed your direction. For that scenario, what I recommend:

- Break the formation
- Turn each ship away in different directions, about 45-90 degrees away from each other
- Assign all ahead flank on all 3 vessels
- After a while, turn the 2 Grishas outward and back to the original position, like a clover leaf
- Turn the Krivak back
- Try to attack the direction with the Grishas pointing towards each other

The moment you see a torp, start tossing a couple SET-65's in that direction. It might give up its position when it tries to flee, then start firing RBU-6000's at it. If you see a Mk-48 and it's moving in a straight line as you flee and it keeps following, you're probably screwed. If you see it doing a search pattern back and forth, try to flee perpendicular to it at flank speed and you have a chance of avoiding the search pattern.

That mission is pretty hard even for a single vessel. I'm not sure why it's a single star rating.
Originally posted by Liberty:
in other words torpedo in the water is basically unavoidable..... okay... then i dont see a point of that scenario lol

The PACT version of the scenario is a lot harder than the NATO version.

You have no helicopter, and their torpedoes have a 20nm range, well outside your detection capability.

Since their torpedoes are wire-guided, they will have control to redirect them towards you no matter how much you evade as long as they have that wire intact.

If they move too much, it will break the wire, so once torpedoes are coming your way, your first priority is to make them move a lot.

Draw a line from your own ship that is being aimed at, through the torpedo and make that line 20nm on the map.

That is their maximum launch distance, they are somewhere between where the torpedo is and where that line ends.

If the torpedo is close enough to you, launch one or two of your own torpedoes from your tubes in the suspected direction.

If not, your lead ship has the SS-N-14A, which is a standoff ASW torpedo delivery missile with more range than they can launch from. Send a couple of them their way, and make sure to give it a bit of space between them to cover possible distances.

Hopefully that will make them maneuver enough break the wire, have your ship that is being shot at do evasive maneuvers, and your other two sprint towards the target.

Keep up the pressure while doing this, that means launching additional torpedoes to keep them entertained while you move in.

Have one ship stop now and then to listen to sonar, and don't worry about using your active sonar, the sub knows exactly where you are.

With a lot of luck, your RBUs can intercept incoming torpedoes, but don't count on that.

Good luck.
_RAM_ Nov 30, 2024 @ 12:15am 
Soviet ships deal with torp like they do it with missiles. Shoot rockets at it.
RBU kill torpedoes with about 50% chance (if torp moves in a straight line).
Just shoot RBUs (but not simultaneously)
Liberty Nov 30, 2024 @ 10:14am 
yes i mean the 1 star mission hunt or be hunted.. 3 pact destroyers vs sub.. . as its 1 star i tried it first as ,,tutorial,. i am cold waters vet so i got idea how stuff there works.. and ye i tried that tactic to flank speed away from original dierction and then turn back.. but still... :( i get wrecked by torp no matter what :(
Yes, that mission shouldn't be 1-star rating at all, it is one of the hardest missions currently in the game.

Definitely 1-star if you play the NATO side I guess...
titan hs 2 Nov 30, 2024 @ 12:11pm 
It gets really much easier when you realize that RBU mortars can kill torpedoes in the water
Liberty Nov 30, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
i find hitting torpedo with RBU impossible.... :-/ need noicemaker torps like in cold waters, those were great countermeasures.. torpedo here is certain unavoidable death
cccpmoscow Dec 1, 2024 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Liberty:
i keep trying to evade torpedoes with my destroyers in pact scenarios but it seems like its impossible to survive. doesnt matter what i do but torpedo always goes for the target.... i even tried to spam my own torpedoes around , shoot depth charges... everything to try to confuse torpedo sonar but its no use....
If you are a soviet ship then use RBU to intercept the torpedo. Launch it when the torpedo is about 1nm-1.3nm to you. but you must accept that it may get a fail interception. noise maker torpedo can be found in soviet subs
If you are a NATO ship , try shutting down you engine and do a turn when it slows down
DeltaV Dec 1, 2024 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by supersound99ss:
Originally posted by Lanzfeld:

and cats like wet cat food.
And Russians don't take a dump without a plan...

This business will get out of control, it will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
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