I'm on the fence with this one...

[RõninReaver]

Not saying is not gonna be a good game, or that is uninteresting (quite the contrary), but the lack of soooo many basic features with this Early access is making me have second thoughts:

-First is the lack of propper tutorials. I've reviewed the pdf offered by Triassic at the Steam store page and is quite complete, and is a nice touch that they colored certain lines to draw the attention of players to important topics, but also underlines my second grief.

-Many of the features are still WIP/Not implemented. Granted, it's an early access and certain features are subject to be activated in the future, and I'm OK with that but not to the point of wanting to pay for a game that lacks features that I consider must have whatever their state is.

-This last point is specially true for the Save/Load. I recon it's gonna be implemented sooner than later, probably even this week or the next one, but considering the aforementioned lack of tutorials, ''save scumming'' was to be my get go way to learn the ropes of the game.

-Finally, although this question will be solved within the next hour of writting this post, is the fact that we haven't had a single word on pricing. If the game is around 30-35 euros I might give it a go despite the ''flaws'' it's still has by the fact that it's an early access. If its above 40-45 euros, then it's a ''big no no'' for me. Not a definitive one, as when we reach 2025 and the game is released with it's 1.0 version, Sea Power will be one of my most desirede titles (it is allready, but I'm not willing to pay much for an ''unfinished'' game; my 3 must have points are Save/load, Campaign, and full control of all the features).

With all this said, I wanna assure the devs at Triassic Games that I'm interested in the game and want to play it, but not sure about if it will be worth TODAY.

I'm willing to hear thoughs on this topics to help me decide. Thank you in advance.

[ToreDL87]

Sry can't help but think it's another one of those "geee wish price wasnt so high... GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" posts, just by the way it's structured it looks like you made an effort to hide it'ish but.. The paragraph about pricing is the last one, good one there, but it's just way longer than the other two which instantly gives it away.
That was your ESM, A for effort but you slipped.

Not that anything anyone says here will change price, so I'll entertain the idea - it's probably gonna be 45-70 bucks as befitting a AAA naval title. Look at Command, and that's not even 3D lol
35 is criminally low, as you very well know, EA is probably not your cup of tea.

One thing to keep in mind with your decision as for the pricing, if it's 45-50 banana's now, as the game gets features added to it, price might increase.
As has indeed been the case with multiple naval titles throughout the years.

[Floppar]

All the points of you are normal for an Early Access - its even the definition that a lot of stuff is missing and its still in development...

Dont get me wrong, but an Early Access is probably nothing for you, if you have a problem with all that stuff you hesitate etc....

[Skates1]

i agree anything over 30USD is probably gonna be a no for me but also i look at it as Cold Waters on steroids. idk if you played Cold Waters but it didn't have tutorials but its the kind of game you just learn from making mistakes, save scumming might help get new people over the hump but then it would be a crutch.

[guinness.please]

I prefer the term "smart save" over "scum saving"

[ToreDL87]

I checked Discord, Unofficial post made by a user named Oellness on MP discord states 49,95€ with 10% discount on EA.

[ToreDL87]

Update, the 49,95 is made-up, but the 10% discount is confirmed by devs.

[Leeji Datri]

You do realize it's an EARLY ACCESS game right??? I mean the name literally implies some features may not work at launch...

[RõninReaver]

Originally posted by Leeji Datri:

You do realize it's an EARLY ACCESS game right??? I mean the name literally implies some features may not work at launch...

I do know... but this Early Access as I said lacks certain features that are a must have for me.

Originally posted by ToreDL87:

Sry can't help but think it's another one of those "geee wish price wasnt so high... GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" posts, just by the way it's structured it looks like you made an effort to hide it'ish but.. The paragraph about pricing is the last one, good one there, but it's just way longer than the other two which instantly gives it away.
That was your ESM, A for effort but you slipped.

Not that anything anyone says here will change price, so I'll entertain the idea - it's probably gonna be 45-70 bucks as befitting a AAA naval title. Look at Command, and that's not even 3D lol
35 is criminally low, as you very well know, EA is probably not your cup of tea.

One thing to keep in mind with your decision as for the pricing, if it's 45-50 banana's now, as the game gets features added to it, price might increase.
As has indeed been the case with multiple naval titles throughout the years.

Well of course princing is an issue. If I buy a game I wanna be able to enjoy it the moment I purchase it, not wanting to wait for X months in wait of being finished; same principle as to why I don't pre order anything anymore. And it's the longest one 'cause is the point is gonna make or breake the purchase for me.

Originally posted by Floppar:

All the points of you are normal for an Early Access - its even the definition that a lot of stuff is missing and its still in development...

Dont get me wrong, but an Early Access is probably nothing for you, if you have a problem with all that stuff you hesitate etc....

Sure, it depends on the Early Access, but to put an example, when I joined the EA for subnautica it had features that could make me forget it was one. Sea Power is lacking in that regard, but not to the point of dismissing the game before it's 1.0, but also the lackings I pointed out are a must have for me (as I said) regardless of EA or not.

[Preposterous!]

no save / load is truly the only showstopper and even that is said to be coming in a few days

[mippie]

Originally posted by RõninReaver:

Originally posted by Leeji Datri:

You do realize it's an EARLY ACCESS game right??? I mean the name literally implies some features may not work at launch...

I do know... but this Early Access as I said lacks certain features that are a must have for me.

Originally posted by ToreDL87:

Sry can't help but think it's another one of those "geee wish price wasnt so high... GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" posts, just by the way it's structured it looks like you made an effort to hide it'ish but.. The paragraph about pricing is the last one, good one there, but it's just way longer than the other two which instantly gives it away.
That was your ESM, A for effort but you slipped.

Not that anything anyone says here will change price, so I'll entertain the idea - it's probably gonna be 45-70 bucks as befitting a AAA naval title. Look at Command, and that's not even 3D lol
35 is criminally low, as you very well know, EA is probably not your cup of tea.

One thing to keep in mind with your decision as for the pricing, if it's 45-50 banana's now, as the game gets features added to it, price might increase.
As has indeed been the case with multiple naval titles throughout the years.

Well of course princing is an issue. If I buy a game I wanna be able to enjoy it the moment I purchase it, not wanting to wait for X months in wait of being finished; same principle as to why I don't pre order anything anymore. And it's the longest one 'cause is the point is gonna make or breake the purchase for me.

Originally posted by Floppar:

All the points of you are normal for an Early Access - its even the definition that a lot of stuff is missing and its still in development...

Dont get me wrong, but an Early Access is probably nothing for you, if you have a problem with all that stuff you hesitate etc....

Sure, it depends on the Early Access, but to put an example, when I joined the EA for subnautica it had features that could make me forget it was one. Sea Power is lacking in that regard, but not to the point of dismissing the game before it's 1.0, but also the lackings I pointed out are a must have for me (as I said) regardless of EA or not.

Don't buy it then.....The main reason to support the early access is that this is a team of less than a dozen people making a game they love. This isn't Sony or EA or other huge studio/developer being lazy, this is a small developer and supporting this early access allows them to continue to develop the game.

If you think core things are missing, then wait, but when you wait the cost with increase closer to the true release date

[ToreDL87]

According to devpost here on steam, load/save is gonna be implemented maybe as early as today.

[his-Oellness]

Originally posted by ToreDL87:

Update, the 49,95 is made-up, but the 10% discount is confirmed by devs.

I've made only an assumption of the price. ;-)
At the end of the day, or in 7 Minutes, everybody must make his own decision if he/she/it want to pay the given price.

The devs want to be paid for their work and that is totally legitim.

Every crying child can wait for a sale at next steam summer fest....

[Floppar]

The price is now confirmed and the price is a big no for the guy - so I think we are fine now ;)

[Bobfromacounting]

Originally posted by his-Oellness:

Originally posted by ToreDL87:

Update, the 49,95 is made-up, but the 10% discount is confirmed by devs.

I've made only an assumption of the price. ;-)
At the end of the day, or in 7 Minutes, everybody must make his own decision if he/she/it want to pay the given price.

The devs want to be paid for their work and that is totally legitim.

Every crying child can wait for a sale at next steam summer fest....

Crying child? How is someone a crying child for not thinking a price is worth it? Stop whiteknighting.

[his-Oellness]

oh, i was very close.... ;-)