Unplayable Humble

[Merlin69]

Looks like a refund is likely as not enough water/oxygen to survive initial landing.

[maestro]

Uh, what?

You can refill o2 anytime you want by stepping into your pod or a room you construct. If you're referring to making o2 canisters with cobalt, well... cobalt is obtainable, but indirectly. You need to actually read and apply some critical thinking skills.

Water is plentiful but you have to be smart, ice isn't laying around everywhere, you have to... uh... look for actual ice and you'll see chunks of ice near large deposits that are visible from a distance.

[Vortimous]

or you could learn how to play and look around and find what you need.. or ask for help...

[Teque]

There are plenty of crates and such with cobalt for oxygen and ice very close to the landing site.

[DiFtz]

If u already play the base... u know how the game works.
In this planet, have a new ore and new machine where u can put the ore and get cobalt and the basic minerals.

Just play, and advance ... i think doesn't need refund, because the prize for this planet is very low..
I like this DLC.

[Teque]

The DLC is very fun for me so far. Hope you give it another chance.

[DraconicTank]

That just sounds like a skill issue to me.

[Catplane]

Originally posted by Teque:

There are plenty of crates and such with cobalt for oxygen and ice very close to the landing site.

The standard landing? Maybe I'm doing something wrong, I absolutely cannot make it to the ice zone from landing pad. I've been bunny hopping habitats to get it.

[Draken]

I agree with the OP that it's quite a bit more difficult, especially if it's your first run and you get unlucky.

First the starting location is a lot less open and flat, so orientation is more difficult.
Second Ice is missing and Cobalt is a bit rng. I got unlucky with the ore crusher and didn't get much Cobalt in the first few chunks.
Which means at the time I had to use the first of two bottles of water I was still running around with the default oxygen tank which makes exploration very difficult. Even if you put down a habitat on the go.
Third, I did go toward the ice, but in the first frozen cave I checked I found no ice and then I had to run back quite a distance to drink my last water bottle.

Pretty sure if I do a run after exploring the area a bit getting water will be easier, but the start can be quite rough.

Edit: Found the right Ice cave. Was going into the wrong direction before.

[phadin]

I think it safe to be said that the DLC is designed for people who have already played the original game... as most DLC is. It's expected you have a decent idea of basic concepts, and it starts throwing some curvballs that make things more difficult then the main game map. If you haven't played the original map, go do that first.

[SealieP]

It is a bit harder, but it is doable. I would suggest making a custom game and tweaking the settings for you until you learn the map and gameplay, then you can make it harder.

[iAndy]

definitely play the base before the dlc planet.. it's much easier and teaches you the basics

[maestro]

Will have to second the notion of the DLC is meant for veteran players, especially if you're going in blind.

You need to Know what you're doing, what you should be aiming for, and what your priorities are before attempting to play Humble.

The first-time novice player is not going to understand some of the hurdles and challenges Humble presents and/or some of the tradeoffs that it offers, and might even be entirely confused and not really understanding what all they have at their disposal and alternate ways to get things done.

I myself have done a good half-dozen playthroughs well past insects stage on Prime, and went into the DLC blind and found myself scratching my head and thinking about things some. I haven't died yet, but came close once, but I am now entirely self-sufficient with infinite water and food though I do owe some of that to a few lucky water bottle finds near the beginning of the game.

[Vortimous]

Originally posted by Draken:

I agree with the OP that it's quite a bit more difficult, especially if it's your first run and you get unlucky.

First the starting location is a lot less open and flat, so orientation is more difficult.
Second Ice is missing and Cobalt is a bit rng. I got unlucky with the ore crusher and didn't get much Cobalt in the first few chunks.
Which means at the time I had to use the first of two bottles of water I was still running around with the default oxygen tank which makes exploration very difficult. Even if you put down a habitat on the go.
Third, I did go toward the ice, but in the first frozen cave I checked I found no ice and then I had to run back quite a distance to drink my last water bottle.

Pretty sure if I do a run after exploring the area a bit getting water will be easier, but the start can be quite rough.

Edit: Found the right Ice cave. Was going into the wrong direction before.

You dont need an ice "cave" from the starting landing pod, turn left and go till you see snow, its not that far, and ice is all over the ground... no cave needed....

[Draken]

Originally posted by Vortimous:

You dont need an ice "cave" from the starting landing pod, turn left and go till you see snow, its not that far, and ice is all over the ground... no cave needed....

Yep, I found it.
I just explored into the direction that the crash capsule opened because I saw some ice in the distance and thought to try that.

As stated the starting area is a lot less open so I didn't see the snow and I had some bad rng with the crusher leading to me being unable to upgrade the oxygen tank or even get any oxygen bottles. So I didn't explore much in other directions once I saw the other ice caves in the distance.