No dediccated servers?

[castillo]

See title.

If this game had them it would be instabuy for me, but without I'll pass. It's just not doable that the one hosting the game has to be online for a group of players to play this game. I really cannot understand how these kinds of games are still released without a dedicated server option.

[Min/Max]

Dedicated servers is a must for any coop game like this.

[Xyberviri]

Hello, i wanted to drop in and offer a non player perspective.

I rent large dedicated servers directly from a server provider, ie OVH.

On that server i use TCAdmin, like gportal would, so that i can host games for my community. The reason is I have zero interest in paying companies suchs as gportal, survival servers or nitrado a monthly fee to host 1 game.

i was hosting palworld, enshrouded and project zomboid up until my players lost interest and moved on to the latest flavor of the month.

For half the price of a 100 player server i can host multiple games.

I can also host a game for a day, a week or a month instead of being out a monthly fee for 1 game that ends up being a dud.

Ie there is zero cost or risk to spin up a new server for my community.

Thats why when a new game like this comes out the first thing i do is see i can spin one up for my community. If its player hosted coop i just pass and move on.

If its company hosted servers for dedicated sessions like star citizen or fallout 76 then eh maybe.

But if its client coop then its a hard pass, same with most single player games.

If you want others to sell your game to their friends or community then you want player hosted dedicated servers.

I wish the devs the best of luck

[SteinDrSolido]

Boomer Shooter lähetti viestin:

Dedicated servers is a must for any coop game like this.

YES , Multiplayer is total USELESS in this game , i never find a coop game to join
hope they make servers

[Bazim]

Boomer Shooter lähetti viestin:

Dedicated servers is a must for any coop game like this.

+1

[Holmes108]

Nefai lähetti viestin:

How would dedicated servers even work?

You and your friend log off at night when you are done, but everything just keeps running in the background while you are gone. When you get back on the next day, a crap-ton of progression will have happened without you.

Nah, I rent a server for 7 Days to Die on Nitrado, for example, and it just pauses when nobody is online.

[Snipe]

Nefai lähetti viestin:

How would dedicated servers even work?

You and your friend log off at night when you are done, but everything just keeps running in the background while you are gone. When you get back on the next day, a crap-ton of progression will have happened without you.

I also host multiple games and have for 20 years, and more often then not the progress of the game pauses while the server is empty. Examples Icarus, Day of the Dead, 7Days2Die, Valheim, Empyrion, Farming Sim 2019, they all pause when no one is in the server.

[bean]

+1 for dedicated.

[Fedello]

Having up to 10 players an no dedicated self host server is a no-go... You can't expect all of them to be online at the same time... I will keep an eye on the game because it looks really nice, but I don't want another subnautica or astroneer where I can't properly play with my friends.

[jep]

Just ran into this. Two friends and I started playing last night without even thinking of the self-hosted issue. Went back in today because I wanted to do a little base-building and mineral-gathering, and then realized "oooooh, it's self-hosting using one master copy of the game." Was a bit of a bummer, because we may not get together again for another week or more.

As a developer of multiplayer games, I get the issues involved. But most of the heavy lifting has already been done to make the game multiplayer to begin with. Hopefully this is something they'll add later, as it makes it a much easier recommend. As it stands now, I won't invite any more of my friends to play in our current game.

[CocZilla]

Dedicated server doesn't have to mean "official dedicated server". Think some here are confusing the two things.

OP wants option to run his-own dedicated server without being in game himself. Not join some official game-ran dedicated server. Or maybe he actually does?

I also want the option to run "my own" dedicated server.

As is, I'd have to pay for game twice. Then run the game on my server, which is not designed to display much. Most servers have no need for a good GPU.

Same thing I can do with valheim, zomboid, etc.

So currently its rather lame, if I want to get off or do something else. Then server goes down, since I cannot just run my own dedicated server. That friends can still play on.

[EleventhStar]

this game isn't long enough for offline/logged out progress to add value.

a shared save file on a server would be nice though, so anyone can be host easily.

but you can set that up yourself with dropbox, a nas or even just discord if you really want to play a coop game without your coop partners. j

[Cassie]

I myself prefer to have it the way it is now. I don't want it to keep running without me in the game, I want to go at my own pace, not be forced to play every day when I'm not feeling like it.

[Doc Falk]

A small dev team (i think it was 5 people in total?) make a awesome single-player (!) game which puts some AAA titles to shame, and at half the price.
As a little surprise they even added multiplayer for the release.... rather just for fun, as the game is intended for playing solo, and as far as i rember it was never planned originally.... and now some people are complaining that they did not implement dedicated servers?
How greedy can you get?

[Ferox_Stormdragon]

This game doesn't need dedicated servers, this isn't ark or conan.

[jep]

Cassie lähetti viestin:

I myself prefer to have it the way it is now. I don't want it to keep running without me in the game, I want to go at my own pace, not be forced to play every day when I'm not feeling like it.

Having the ability to self-host a server wouldn't required you to play every day. It would be very easy for the game time to progress only if someone was logged in.

Doc Falk lähetti viestin:

A small dev team (i think it was 5 people in total?) make a awesome single-player (!) game which puts some AAA titles to shame, and at half the price.
As a little surprise they even added multiplayer for the release.... rather just for fun, as the game is intended for playing solo, and as far as i rember it was never planned originally....

As a game developer, I can tell you that making it work multiplayer is far from a trivial decision. This wouldn't be something they just added as a "little surprise." The entire game would need to be architected around it. Even if it wasn't planned originally, they must have realized how crucial it would be to boosting their sales, or the NEVER would have added any networked multiplayer into it. Because doing so makes it *much* more of a pain to develop.

and now some people are complaining that they did not implement dedicated servers?

People aren't demanding dedicated servers hosted by the game's developers. The game is already running a local server. People are asking to be able to have that local server run when the local person isn't playing the game. It's not a giant leap.

How greedy can you get?

God forbid someone want to give them money for a feature to make their game fit their situation (such as when not everyone in the group is available all at once, especially the person hosting the game.) Or if the original person who was hosting can't play anymore. Or just got bored of it.

Ferox_Stormdragon lähetti viestin:

This game doesn't need dedicated servers, this isn't ark or conan.

Again, people aren't really asking for only the option of a dedicated server offered by the game's developers. You can run a local server, and you can rent a server if you don't want it to be tied to a local machine. Lots of other games do this.


These answers have already been provided in the first few comments, but clearly people don't read and just knee jerk down to spout off about stuff they don't understand.