Suggestion: All ore extractors should extract all ores

[Wig Bang]

It's a bit frustrating waiting for ore extractor 2 to get more uranium/osmium/zeolite/etc.

I really think this is a game design flaw.

edit: edited this post to be less abrasive

[maestro]

Wig Bang eredeti hozzászólása:

That's a term intelligent people use to refer to people who are unintelligent and trying desperately to avoid admitting they are wrong.

There's an old saying on the internet, that if you feel the need to call yourself smart, then you're... probably not.

Not only that, but you again are resorting to personal attacks.

[Keeden]

Shredder machine can now automatically empty on full loads use it as a outflow for the Tier 2 miners when you get to drones you will have it fully automated and tier 3 miners in most situations will be obsolete to the Tier 2 miners to you get unlimited power then go with all tier 3 miners and don't forget about the meteor storms they come when you need them

[dudhit]

maestro eredeti hozzászólása:

Uranium and Iridium are Tier 3.

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I'd like to make a correction. I'm getting Iridium from my T1 drill, but the ones in uranium and osmium caves are only giving T1 ores

[blackwabbit]

Wow. If you're a troll, you did your best job here.
If not, you actually did the worst.
Work on the way you communicate with other people mate.

[Ethan_Hunt-AUT]

Just put up 10-20 extractors for each kind

[Wig Bang]

blackwabbit eredeti hozzászólása:

Wow. If you're a troll, you did your best job here.
If not, you actually did the worst.
Work on the way you communicate with other people mate.

I know it must seem that way to you and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that that doesn't say something unflattering about you.

But truthfully, this is a design decision I strongly disagree with for the reasons I said and I got some pretty rude responses and I responded in kind.

I see this happen online a lot. Someone has an unpopular opinion, then they're on the defensive because people are rude and then they get characterized as the jerk.

This is called gaslighting and like I said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you got tricked by it, as many do, despite the best of intentions.

[6teaNEIN?]

Nice try, editing all of your comments now to try and make yourself look like a saint lmao

Most of your original comments have been quoted, so we can all still see how much of a delusional jerk off you are :)

[CrazedBumblebee]

I see you changed your original comment... I've been reading them and not responding, and it's clear that you Sir were in the wrong on every occasion.

You didn't "suggest" that it was a bad design, or that you had a better idea, you said outright that it HAD to change because it was rediculous etc... You said that you MUST allow t1 extractors to extract ALL ore from EVERYWHERE.

Based on your original post and first response (before you changed/removed them), you actually don't know how the game works, or at least don't seem to understand the point behind the design decisions made.

But let's be serious for a moment here, because I have an actual response to your original comment.

No, t1 extractor should not extract all ore, and no, all ore should not be able to be extracted from anywhere.

The reasons are simple, if you could do this, why would you ever upgrade to t2 or t3 extractors?

Why would you be able to get super alloy, aluminium, sulphur, iridium, uranium, zeolite, or osmium from locations on the planet that are clearly nowhere near a biome that retains those minerals? That would be like digging for oil in the midwest and finding vibranium...

If you could get all of these ores from the t1, even though you've not progressed far enough to use them, what would you do with them? they'd just clog up your extractors.

If you could get the ores from anywhere, what would be the point of the different biomes?

You're simply wrong in your statement that it's a bad design decision. It's not.
You don't like it, and that's fair enough, you don't have to like it, but it's not a bad design decision, quite the opposite in fact.

But the amount of insults and attacks on people that you made when people told you simply and plainly how it works (because it was obvious from your initial post that you didn't know how it worked) is what got people arguing with you.

Honestly, this whole thread seems like a troll thread, like you're just doing this to get some enjoyment out of arguing with people about something that you know is wrong and doesn't matter.

[Wig Bang]

CrazedBumblebee eredeti hozzászólása:

I see you changed your original comment... I've been reading them and not responding, and it's clear that you Sir were in the wrong on every occasion.

You didn't "suggest" that it was a bad design, or that you had a better idea, you said outright that it HAD to change because it was rediculous etc... You said that you MUST allow t1 extractors to extract ALL ore from EVERYWHERE.

Based on your original post and first response (before you changed/removed them), you actually don't know how the game works, or at least don't seem to understand the point behind the design decisions made.

But let's be serious for a moment here, because I have an actual response to your original comment.

No, t1 extractor should not extract all ore, and no, all ore should not be able to be extracted from anywhere.

The reasons are simple, if you could do this, why would you ever upgrade to t2 or t3 extractors?

Why would you be able to get super alloy, aluminium, sulphur, iridium, uranium, zeolite, or osmium from locations on the planet that are clearly nowhere near a biome that retains those minerals? That would be like digging for oil in the midwest and finding vibranium...

If you could get all of these ores from the t1, even though you've not progressed far enough to use them, what would you do with them? they'd just clog up your extractors.

If you could get the ores from anywhere, what would be the point of the different biomes?

You're simply wrong in your statement that it's a bad design decision. It's not.
You don't like it, and that's fair enough, you don't have to like it, but it's not a bad design decision, quite the opposite in fact.

But the amount of insults and attacks on people that you made when people told you simply and plainly how it works (because it was obvious from your initial post that you didn't know how it worked) is what got people arguing with you.

Honestly, this whole thread seems like a troll thread, like you're just doing this to get some enjoyment out of arguing with people about something that you know is wrong and doesn't matter.

There would be a lot of reasons to upgrade to higher tiers of ore extractors.

For example: being able to target a specific ore, like we can with t3 extractors now. That is a lovely feature.

Faster extraction.

And honestly I wouldn't mind there being things like... a lower throughput on the higher tier ores for lower tiers of ore extractors as long as tier 1 could access those higher tier ores.

I'll ignore most of the rest of your comments since they were mostly ad hominem. I never edited my comments. But others edited their comments and edited the quoted parts to make it look like I said things more aggressively than I normally would.

Let's try to just keep it to the topic at hand. A discussion of the design element.

Thanks and have a great day.

[Wig Bang]

CrazedBumblebee eredeti hozzászólása:

(because it was obvious from your initial post that you didn't know how it worked)

I disagree. There was nothing in my initial post that indicated that I didn't know how things worked.

Did you really get that impression? Could you be more specific? What was the aspect of the game mechanics that my initial post seemed to indicate that I didn't understand?

I think we both know that is not true and that you're being dishonest.

But let's try to be civil here.

[CrazedBumblebee]

I'm fairly sure your OP was much bigger than 2 lines of text, I purposely didn't respond because the way it read it didn't seem like it warranted it. It came across as a child that lost its toys just trying to get attention. If i'm confusing your post with another I apologize, but given the responses on this thread, it seems like everyone else got the same impression.

"It's hideous waiting for ore extractor 2 to get more uranium/osmium/zeolite/etc."

I completely disagree. You'll have the t2 version most likely long before you can get Zeolite anyway, or have a need for it, given that it's not really need for much outside of I think the Teleporter, Pulsar Quartz, and the Tree Spreader T3. Osmium you need to build ore extractors, and it's in short supply early on because there's an adundance of the ores that you need, without using an extractor.

The ones that are more rare (Iridium and Uranium) are available by sending up heat/pressure rockets.

Essentially the t1 extractors are used for helping you to launch rockets and create super alloy, by the time you need masses of uranium you'll have the ability to send up rockets for essentially infinite uranium, and by the time you need zeolite/pulsar quartz or a lot of osmium you'll have t3 unlocked.

The game is not that hard and the tech tree unlocks very quickly compared to how it used to with all of the additional things that have been added.

I, and may others like how it works now. Aside from a few bugs, issues with drones and priorities, and placement of the extractors, I don't generally know of any complaints about how this stuff works... just yours.

[Martin]

LtChambers eredeti hozzászólása:

Devs should include this as a testimonial:

100%'ing the game in 108 hours is easy. This is a short game. You can visit all the extinct alien ♥♥♥♥ and get to where you're grinding towards ♥♥♥♥ that hasn't been released yet within 20-30 hours easily. It took me about 50 hours the first time. But a lot less after that.

And I have over 1500 hours on Satisfactory. So trust me. i'm far more advanced of a player than literally any of you.

I'm just significantly smarter/more advanced of an intellect than everyone here.

I can't help but think he's trolling, but bravo TPC community for not rising to it!

He probably isn't.. i've played.. for 15 hours and I can see already what needs to be done to speed the processes up.. I just can't be bothered grinding it all out. I prefer waiting. Gives me less to do. Beating a game in 50 hours.. means little to me, I have 5000 hours in some games..

[6teaNEIN?]

Wig Bang eredeti hozzászólása:

I never edited my comments. But others edited their comments and edited the quoted parts to make it look like I said things more aggressively than I normally would.

Now that is gas lighting, and an outright lie!

You really do think you're so smart lol we can literally see that you edited all of your comments, it says so on each one of them XD

[shmullster]

I have been following this thread with some puzzlement. Can I assume there are no moderators on the board? Surely this toxic thread would have been closed off by now.

Editing the original post three pages of heated dialogue in likely won't save this thread from being mostly vituperative.

The debate over the speed of the game is valid, though a bit dated. Still it offers newer players some insight from the people who have played this for a long time. This could have been part of that discussion. I would rather the OP start a different thread and let this one expire.

[Ethan_Hunt-AUT]

shmullster eredeti hozzászólása:

I have been following this thread with some puzzlement. Can I assume there are no moderators on the board? Surely this toxic thread would have been closed off by now.

Editing the original post three pages of heated dialogue in likely won't save this thread from being mostly vituperative.

The debate over the speed of the game is valid, though a bit dated. Still it offers newer players some insight from the people who have played this for a long time. This could have been part of that discussion. I would rather the OP start a different thread and let this one expire.

I guess not feeding the trolls is the only method here...