Starting a new game, chests open or wait?

[Dragonfly42]

So after being away from the game for a long while I am starting a new save. That way I can experience all the things in the last updates with a fresh start. I know back when I was playing it was better to now open too many chests in the beginning. Things in them were better if you waited until you were farther into the game. Is this still true? I know I will need some because they supply needed items & some are in areas that we can't get to later.
Thanks!

[Pesky]

Open chests only when you're searching for something you can't do without. Need mushroom seeds ? You can find them only in chests. Found two ? That's all you need. Stop opening chests.

[Banzai]

This game mechanic needs a rethink. Players shouldn't be punished for exploring, which is what this effectively does. Either that or it needs to be made clear to the player that this is a thing.

[Maljen]

Originally posted by Banzai:

This game mechanic needs a rethink. Players shouldn't be punished for exploring, which is what this effectively does. Either that or it needs to be made clear to the player that this is a thing.

There's 100+ blue chests and what, 18 gold ones now? There's no 'punishment' for opening chests. Open as you go. I did a play through where I tried to hold of and by end game, when I opened them, I wasn't getting anything I couldn't already craft easily. Open as you go, you'll be fine.

[ElDudorino]

Originally posted by Maljen:

Originally posted by Banzai:

This game mechanic needs a rethink. Players shouldn't be punished for exploring, which is what this effectively does. Either that or it needs to be made clear to the player that this is a thing.

There's 100+ blue chests and what, 18 gold ones now? There's no 'punishment' for opening chests. Open as you go. I did a play through where I tried to hold of and by end game, when I opened them, I wasn't getting anything I couldn't already craft easily. Open as you go, you'll be fine.

I had the same experience. Yes I was finding better stuff but it doesn't really matter after a certain point when you're getting full lockers of pulsar quartz falling from the sky.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by Maljen:

There's 100+ blue chests and what, 18 gold ones now? There's no 'punishment' for opening chests. Open as you go. I did a play through where I tried to hold of and by end game, when I opened them, I wasn't getting anything I couldn't already craft easily. Open as you go, you'll be fine.

I'll keep going, but I have noticed that my storage is full of mostly crap seeds etc. I wonder what the inventory would look like if i'd waited until I reached a higher level before exploring.

I still think the idea is questionable. "Magical lootboxes" that change contents in reaction to the player actions seem like an odd fit for a sci-fi game. Just my 2 cents.

[Coops]

Open everything early to get enough food to last you until you make food growers, then you can be more selective if you want.

[7C]

If you've ever played 7 Days to Die, you know what "loot stage" is. So this has a similar "loot stage" based off of your Ti. So the higher your Ti the better stuff you'll find in blue and gold chests. So it's kind of a gamble. If there's nothing you *need* right this second maybe hold off on them and get something even better later.

[Banzai]

Originally posted by 7C:

If you've ever played 7 Days to Die, you know what "loot stage" is. So this has a similar "loot stage" based off of your Ti. So the higher your Ti the better stuff you'll find in blue and gold chests. So it's kind of a gamble. If there's nothing you *need* right this second maybe hold off on them and get something even better later.

I played that game briefly, and didn't know that was a thing there either. Maybe my second suggestion is better, simply communicate this better so players don't find out after they do most of the exploring and looting.

[Dragonfly42]

Thanks! I am looking for chips & food. I do wish that as you got to more stages new chests would appear. It is fun finding & opening them.

[wizdmalegj]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1284190/discussions/0/3193621324043917997/#c3193621324045215167
Here's what one of the devs had to say about chests. As far as the impact short of Lirma /Seeds being generated at later stages I don't really think it matters. Although you do need microchips but if you go to one of the southern corners there is the dev chest full of them so you could technically wait on the chests and hope for more of the limited items vs the beginning just being junk.

[Pesky]

Also ... you're probably going to play through at least twice. So once open every chest as you come to it. And another time open chests only as you're desperate. Figure out which strategy makes the game most fun for you.

[Haildodger]

Originally posted by Maljen:

There's 100+ blue chests and what, 18 gold ones now? There's no 'punishment' for opening chests. Open as you go. I did a play through where I tried to hold of and by end game, when I opened them, I wasn't getting anything I couldn't already craft easily. Open as you go, you'll be fine.

This^

[Dragonfly42]

Originally posted by wizdmalegj:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1284190/discussions/0/3193621324043917997/#c3193621324045215167
Here's what one of the devs had to say about chests. As far as the impact short of Lirma /Seeds being generated at later stages I don't really think it matters. Although you do need microchips but if you go to one of the southern corners there is the dev chest full of them so you could technically wait on the chests and hope for more of the limited items vs the beginning just being junk.

I didn't use the dev chest in my other saves but did know about it. I may go find it if I am not getting enough chips early on. I can always use or not use them but having them would be nice.

[Starseed]

I dont see the point in telling people not to open the chests, Like all games, the rewards/treasures update and improve and your level does and you do need them early game NOT late in the game when you already have most items they have in them. You need to open the chests, esp early days for seeds to start making your own food, AND for the blueprints. As you go through the game, you really have no idea when you have everything you need because new items do pop up as you unlock more T levels. I found later in game, the only chest reward that really helped was the pulsar quartz, until I got the T3 ore extractors. So nothing late in the game in chests met any significant reward value at all, infact I found myself leaving alot behind and even dumping stuff into them to clear my own backpack! That to me is what needs to be reviewed. I mean why put ore into late game chests when you have the extractors! So I say go for it, open the chests, thats what they are there for early game, more so than late game!

[wizdmalegj]

Originally posted by Starseed:

I dont see the point in telling people not to open the chests, Like all games, the rewards/treasures update and improve and your level does and you do need them early game NOT late in the game when you already have most items they have in them. You need to open the chests, esp early days for seeds to start making your own food, AND for the blueprints. As you go through the game, you really have no idea when you have everything you need because new items do pop up as you unlock more T levels. I found later in game, the only chest reward that really helped was the pulsar quartz, until I got the T3 ore extractors. So nothing late in the game in chests met any significant reward value at all, infact I found myself leaving alot behind and even dumping stuff into them to clear my own backpack! That to me is what needs to be reviewed. I mean why put ore into late game chests when you have the extractors! So I say go for it, open the chests, thats what they are there for early game, more so than late game!

Yeah you need seeds for food but once ur up and running you can stop. At each stage when you get what you need you can stop. If you don't know it scales you just run around and grab them as soon as you find them. Low stage is mostly ores.