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Varlun Oct 2, 2024 @ 9:50am
How does XP share between archetypes and prism? (Boss Rush)
This question is a bit more in depth than you may expect, so please read.

Boss Rush (the gauntlet) gives a gigantic chunk of XP if you succeed, over 100k. This is roughly how much it takes to level a single archetype from 0 to 10 (about 110k).

I already know that if you have two archetypes that aren't max level, the XP gets split between them. My question is, if you have one archetype that's almost max level, and another that's lower... does it just split it 50/50, wasting a huge chunk of XP on the almost maxed archetype? Or will it use enough XP to max it then put all the rest towards the other? I somehow doubt the code is that complex.

And now of course we also have prisms to level. Is the XP shared with this as well? Does it get split 3 ways? Or does it just get duplicated and levels the prism completely separately? Will your prism level faster if your archetypes are maxed?

This will require some people who are a bit better at math than me to do some investigating. Hope to get some answers!

Please bump for attention.
Last edited by Varlun; Oct 2, 2024 @ 10:10am
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Varlun Oct 2, 2024 @ 2:28pm 
I'm about to test this myself, for science. I swapped in 2 level 0 archetypes at the end of a gauntlet run, and both barely reached level 6. Next run, I'll slot in a level 9 and a level 0. If the level 0 gets above level 6, we'll know no XP was lost.

I'll also note that I've been getting about 2 prism levels every run, though I wasn't paying as much attention to that. I'll start paying attention from here on. Once my archetypes are all maxed, I'll see if my prism starts leveling faster.
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Varlun Oct 3, 2024 @ 6:30am 
I'm happy to report that the XP does overflow as you would hope! I just beat another boss rush, with a level 9 and level 0 archetype. The level 0 ended up level 9.

Also, I paid attention to my prism XP before and after. I gained just over 2 prism levels. XP was around half before and after.

As mentioned before, I'll see whether my prism starts leveling faster once my archetypes are maxed. I don't really want to test it by intentionally not leveling one or the other, since the gauntlets take so long to do and that would really slow my progression.
Varlun Oct 3, 2024 @ 6:33am 
I also need to test whether XP modifiers affect a run at all. I'll do that next time. With these previous tests, I've always had the scholar trait, sagestone, and XP tonic. I suspect they work, but I want to be sure. I'll do the next run without any of those bonuses.
Following this.
Varlun Oct 3, 2024 @ 8:58am 
Right. So I did the next run without any XP bonus at all. I even respecced out of Scholar. I got the same amount of XP. I put in another level 9 and level 0 archetype. The level 0 still ended up level 9. And again, I got just over 2 levels of prism.

I actually didn't expect this. But it's clear the XP bonuses don't work. All those bonuses together amount to around 45%.

I've almost leveled all my archetypes at this point. Next run, I'll put in a level 9 and a level 6. We should see if I get more prism XP.
Varlun Oct 3, 2024 @ 9:00am 
Actually, I'll put in 2 level 9s, just to make it super clear. Two level 6s will both hit 10 anyway, which is what I'll have left.
Last edited by Varlun; Oct 3, 2024 @ 9:03am
The New Patch will make XP bonuses work. Yay.
Varlun Oct 3, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Interesting. So I put in two level 9s, of course they hit 10. But I still got around 2 prism levels. Maybe XP doesn't "overflow" from nearly-maxed archetypes into the prism, the same way it does between archetypes.

My next game will finish off my leveling, then the game after that we'll find out if prisms level faster with maxed archetypes.
Zola Dec 9, 2024 @ 11:48pm 
Originally posted by Varlun:
Interesting. So I put in two level 9s, of course they hit 10. But I still got around 2 prism levels. Maybe XP doesn't "overflow" from nearly-maxed archetypes into the prism, the same way it does between archetypes.

My next game will finish off my leveling, then the game after that we'll find out if prisms level faster with maxed archetypes.

Might be necro-ing, but have you followed up on that?

What would happen if your two active archetypes are maxed out, does all the xp goes to the prism?

Appreciate it.
Grizzly Dec 10, 2024 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Zola:
Originally posted by Varlun:
Interesting. So I put in two level 9s, of course they hit 10. But I still got around 2 prism levels. Maybe XP doesn't "overflow" from nearly-maxed archetypes into the prism, the same way it does between archetypes.

My next game will finish off my leveling, then the game after that we'll find out if prisms level faster with maxed archetypes.

Might be necro-ing, but have you followed up on that?

What would happen if your two active archetypes are maxed out, does all the xp goes to the prism?

Appreciate it.
didnt wanna read all that here so ill just write out all the info for XP

of the 100% XP you get
if you have two archetypes equipped, its 50/50 between them
a single archetype gets the full 100%
if an archetype maxes, the rest 100% of XP goes to the second archetype if its not maxed

if both archetypes are maxed, no XP is gained.

prisms on the other hand have nothing to do with archtype XP at all, the prism just takes its own 100% XP from the XP you get, separate from archetypes, meaning it never hurts to level the prism, it literally takes not away from anything.
Last edited by Grizzly; Dec 10, 2024 @ 5:09am
Zola Dec 10, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Grizzly:
Originally posted by Zola:

Might be necro-ing, but have you followed up on that?

What would happen if your two active archetypes are maxed out, does all the xp goes to the prism?

Appreciate it.
didnt wanna read all that here so ill just write out all the info for XP

of the 100% XP you get
if you have two archetypes equipped, its 50/50 between them
a single archetype gets the full 100%
if an archetype maxes, the rest 100% of XP goes to the second archetype if its not maxed

if both archetypes are maxed, no XP is gained.

prisms on the other hand have nothing to do with archtype XP at all, the prism just takes its own 100% XP from the XP you get, separate from archetypes, meaning it never hurts to level the prism, it literally takes not away from anything.

Thanks!
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