Primary archetype is Challenger

[Forge Master]

I'm using an LMG, Sword, and Alien Laser Pistol. Just maxed to 10 and can get a secondary Archetype.. I'm thinking between Companion and Medic. Thoughts?

[Lapinoire]

Medic or Engineer when you find it. Honestly, everything works with Challenger with how useful the class perks/passives are.

[Sigs]

if you maxed, you should get a new main and a new sub to level. You're wasting XP.

You can equip a 2nd engram way earlier than level 10 in your main class.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Medic or Engineer when you find it. Honestly, everything works with Challenger with how useful the class perks/passives are.

I can get the medic pin at the Ward, so that one is a snap. Not sure about the Engineer though. Is there a good website that lists it all out so I can better decide which of the three I ought to use?

[Lapinoire]

There's probably a couple websites if you just type in the proper keywords, I unlocked engineer by accident. It's somewhere in N'Erud when you have access to it.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Originally posted by Forge:

I'm using an LMG, Sword, and Alien Laser Pistol. Just maxed to 10 and can get a secondary Archetype.. I'm thinking between Companion and Medic. Thoughts?

medic i'll say

[FrantiX GE]

Go with engineer I'd say, the archetype has a trait that improves armor and an automatic turret that you can either place for autofire or use yourself if you feel like it.

Getting the archetype will be cheaper as well because you can find the item in the wild and only pay for the engram conversion, in contrary to the "starter" items for which you'll have to pay to get them AND to convert them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZfPvoFZYT4&t=61s

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by Sigs:

if you maxed, you should get a new main and a new sub to level. You're wasting XP.

You can equip a 2nd engram way earlier than level 10 in your main class.

I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean make a new character? Convert the existing character? I thought the point to having two types is for a very versatile character?

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Forge:

I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean make a new character? Convert the existing character? I thought the point to having two types is for a very versatile character?

Their post is something about efficiency.

If you've maxed an archetype(level 10), you're essentially wasting EXP that you could put on another archetype. If you don't care about unlocking class-specific traits, then the EXP waste isn't that big of a deal, but if you want to unlock everything fast, setting a different main archetype allows you to gain experience for it alongside the sub archetype.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Originally posted by Forge:

I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean make a new character? Convert the existing character? I thought the point to having two types is for a very versatile character?

Their post is something about efficiency.

If you've maxed an archetype(level 10), you're essentially wasting EXP that you could put on another archetype. If you don't care about unlocking class-specific traits, then the EXP waste isn't that big of a deal, but if you want to unlock everything fast, setting a different main archetype allows you to gain experience for it alongside the sub archetype.

So then I would want to convert the character by putting the maxed 10 Challenger as the secondary and putting the new one as the primary?

[Sigs]

You can swap your level 10 for a level 1, and put another level 1 in your empty slot. Your starting class isn't permanent, it's just another engram.

If you get a level 10, you get 1 of the traits permanently- if you want to play for a long time, you can collect these traits and use good ones. I was trying to say if you are getting EXP while you have a level 10 engram equipped, that EXP is getting deleted.

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Forge:

So then I would want to convert the character by putting the maxed 10 Challenger as the secondary and putting the new one as the primary?

Well... not exactly that.

Both Primary and Secondary archetypes gain EXP at the same rate(or at least it feels like they do), so having either slot with a level 10 archetype is essentially wasting EXP. but if you don't care about efficiency, just play whatever primary, and put anything that isn't level 10 on secondary until you max everything.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Originally posted by Forge:

So then I would want to convert the character by putting the maxed 10 Challenger as the secondary and putting the new one as the primary?

Well... not exactly that.

Both Primary and Secondary archetypes gain EXP at the same rate(or at least it feels like they do), so having either slot with a level 10 archetype is essentially wasting EXP. but if you don't care about efficiency, just play whatever primary, and put anything that isn't level 10 on secondary until you max everything.

If its at the same rate though.. say I get 1,000 exp killing a boss.. Wouldn't a 1,000 xp go in both types, at the same time? If that's so, how would that be wasting? I'd understand if it split the exp between the two archetypes. Then yeah, that'd be wasting.

[Sigs]

you don't get exp on a level 10 engram. It is full. There is nowhere for that exp to go.

[Lapinoire]

Originally posted by Forge:

If its at the same rate though.. say I get 1,000 exp killing a boss.. Wouldn't a 1,000 xp go in both types, at the same time? If that's so, how would that be wasting? I'd understand if it split the exp between the two archetypes. Then yeah, that'd be wasting.

Taking your example, think about it this way:

You gain 1,000 EXP from a boss.
Both archetypes gain 1,000 EXP from the kill(no split).
That means you essentially "gained" 2,000 EXP, instead of 1,000.

By having a class at level 10, you're losing that extra 1,000 EXP, because that EXP isn't going anywhere and is lost. You could instead use another archetype that isn't level 10, and get that EXP. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day, though.

[Forge Master]

Originally posted by Lapinoire:

Originally posted by Forge:

If its at the same rate though.. say I get 1,000 exp killing a boss.. Wouldn't a 1,000 xp go in both types, at the same time? If that's so, how would that be wasting? I'd understand if it split the exp between the two archetypes. Then yeah, that'd be wasting.

Taking your example, think about it this way:

You gain 1,000 EXP from a boss.
Both archetypes gain 1,000 EXP from the kill(no split).
That means you essentially "gained" 2,000 EXP, instead of 1,000.

By having a class at level 10, you're losing that extra 1,000 EXP, because that EXP isn't going anywhere and is lost. You could instead use another archetype that isn't level 10, and get that EXP. Doesn't really matter at the end of the day, though.

Okay. So then it DOES split XP between the two? But what if one is maxed? Does it still split and only reward half to the one that isn't maxed?