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iirc you need to max upgrade at least 1 weapon to max with previous upgrade material and then they start dropping. or just go on wiki for game 1 to check. for me it worked something like this.
but really nothing changes with upgrades since the game just scales based on your upgrade level
It also depends on the zone you're in.
Dude I've been at power level 17 since I beat the game and I havent seen this. You'd think I would've tried that first and foremost huh.
It's the "MAX" I can get since every upgrade now requires the materials.
Hardened Iron started dropping immediately in the farm i'm doing. It may only drop in Nightmare or Apocalypse, or only at higher level zones in lower difficulties.
I'm farming the chests in The Red Throne for relic fragments that don't suck, so the free hardened iron is nice.
Alright can confirm they only drop from the chest, could be the bigger one thanks.
They're dropping for me even on Veteran.
I did half of a N'erud adventure mode on tier 17 and got my boss weapon to max and AR to +17