Qhy you shouldn't play rogue unless your a masochist

[Mundra]

I have been trying to beet death mode calamity qith rogue, i started like a week a go and am past polterghast and became really happy that i could do 5000 dps, ALL OTHER CLASSES DO ABOUT 20,000 DPS BY THAT POINT


Next most weapons are really slow and hard to aim or do little damage or even are good but so short ranged that you atr stuck with 1 weapon

Only pre hard mode was it appropriatly balance because it didn't rely on you having like infinite stealth regen in order to do close to what other classes do


Obviously I'm exagerating but really this class constantly seems to about only 1/4 the damage of even melee, a class known for it's bad dps but high def and rogue doesn't even get high ded, it gets ... Get this ... Harder for mobs to see? And only gets critical strike if you want to build stealth all the way up, or atleast only a useful amount considering you have to wait about 5 seconds for each hit and that is a lot of missed dps because evwn the slowest weapons could hit 3 times and that would.

Next stealth strikes are only good for a few weapons and some seem good but actually do less overall dps, the wave pounder is an amazing example of what a stealth strike should be, SCREEN SHAKINGLY GOOD compared to it's original attack, but even with that it still is outclassed by other class weapons in the same area of progression. The pwnnage hammer doesn't get a stealth strike so there is no point to in pre moonlord, stealth strikes are only useful post moonlord and even that is debatable pre DOG

Plz creators of calamity, balance rogue by making better stealth strikes, better accessories and you c an take its armour if you have to just make it a better class, i would rather it be a glass cannon then a wood cannon that hurts it's self by trying to be strong and stealth strike, because heart of the elements outclassed my weapons even pre polterghast and it does only 2000 dps when i should be doing nearly 8 times that

[Mundra]

i have it helps only a little, however that doesnt change its low dps and need for many accessories until you get past DOG, if google could increase my dps i still wouldnt use it because i apperently am a masochist and i hate it



next im doing a masochist/eternity run and then a for the worthy master mode run

and finally i will do a hardcore run in expert mode

[Mundra]

is there a way to not be masochist, it would help if i could enjoy games without needing to suffere through it

[Mundra]

lel i like how i spiral into insanity and comment as if 3rd person

[Mundra]

i would probably enjoy dark souls but im saving up for a computer





i need to stop commenting

[Cursedflame2116]

Rogue isn't really a problem to me idk why you have a problem with it also have you heard of the scarlet devil? It does a lot of damage so plus the stealth can help a lot if you are playing multiplayer because the you can stand still and get lots of damage in while your teammates do that sam thing but they can die and I get that can be a very butthole move but I personally think that if anything the rouge needs to be nerfed a little and I think it can be a good support class if used correctly

[Cursedflame2116]

Again this is my opinion in I'm not saying you have to agree I'm just stating what i think

[Cursedflame2116]

But I can agree that pre hm rogue sucks just like summoner is in 1.4

[Mundra]

i said that the best part of rogue was the Pre HM also yes the scarlet devil does alot but you have to defeat the Supreme Calamitas, or final calamitas, just to get it, meaning that only the last weapons you get and the first weapons you get are fun to use, some in-between are fun to use too but arent good enough to be used, my fav pre hm weapon is still one of my favorite weapons, its unusable in this stage but it is fun to use, it was like the lazer disk thing that needs to be charged up, im too lazy to search up its name



also pre hm summoner in 1.4 is actually better even with less weapons, because the weapons have more thought put into them then the, its a dagger but it homes in, some of the best rogue weapons are the most unique ones, Pwnage hammer is the best pre moonlord weapon and it is also the most fun to use, malachite may be better but by then the pwnage hammer does more dammage to the boss malachite would be used agaisnt, and it is the only boss in which the Pwwnage hammer is actually over powered, however most pre moonlord bosses are single target type enemies, makeing hte pwnnage hammer an imbarresment for being better then any weapon until you are ready to fight astrum deus, NO destroyer doesnt count cause you need to defeat it to get the pwnnage hammer and malachite is when you before you fight astrum deus


Also, WHY WOULD IT NEED TO BE NERFED, even when you stand still and do perfect rogue stealth attacks with critical hits everytime, and then you dont get hit, it maybe then can catch up to melee in dps, MELEE, if you have menacing then you can maybe get past summoner, but if it was nerfed it wouldn't be usable

the recommended post golem weapon does an average of 200- 800 dps while other clases are almost double its max damage, (im talking about doing the best you could with the weapon with accessories and armour for that tier and if the stealth strike does more dps or not overall) even if i didnt do the exact science, which i shouldnt have to perfect the rogue to do average dps, that is why it is a bad class, you HAVE to play well and know the bosses, next, everyother class has better and more unique weapons, it would have been fun to play a class that is quick with low defence and slow attack, but really high dps overall, take the wave pounder it is what i want in a weapon for rogue despite its low dps single target it is amazing against groups, and is visually amazing


most weaponst are just a thrown object plus hmoing or special effect you don't get to see because you spamm it, another idea is a reliance on using multiple weapons and switching them up for bossess, example a far range weapon with little damage, close range with high and a homing weapon with medium range and damage, and





it does less damage then any other class until you defeat calamitas or in specific situations like pwnnage hammer on astrum deus, but it is such a generally bad class with a reliance on standing still instead what what it is based on, rogues, they do hide but they are also able to move fast and in many diriction, it should be based on moving fast and hitting close, or behind an enemy, or exploiting a weakness but they cant take a hit too well, like summoner and mage, but it would have high single target damage, making it bad on worm (for some reason it is only good agaistn worm bossess) and bosses with multiple areas it needs to be hit from but they could bypass armour easier with high single hit attacks and maybe having powerful first hit to start a fight better



i want them to focus on exploiting weakness like a rogue does, not standing still and turning invisible to gain a super magical attack that wasn't worth losing half your health

[Mundra]

i have problems with rogue ok, and dont you dare suggest i should suffer more because it does some damage at all and shouldnt do damage unlesss it take 12 minutes to defeat a boss that normally takes 2 minutes with every other class, this text post was mostly to vent my frustrations as i slog through it and attampt to beat bosses with a very terrible class that i didnt know was bad

[Mundra]

for any one new just skip it and read this


rouge is bad and i hate that i put myself through playing it on death mode

[Mundra]

Originally posted by Shadowcats88:

Originally posted by CursedFlame (RIP Rick May):

But I can agree that pre hm rogue sucks just like summoner is in 1.4

i beg to differ on that one

summoner is decent and actually fun to play now, rogue isnt unless you are a gaming masochist like i am apperently















UPDATE FARGO I WANT TO BEAT MASOCHIST MODE ON TMOD (insert newest update here)

[Mundra]

also no one going to comment on the Qhy

[THE KILLER]

if you REALLY want to make rogue the best class download dual wielding, using the secondary weapon you're wielding while having a max stealth bar allows you to perform constant stealth strikes. However this completely breaks the game scaling so caution advised

[BattleMedicMain]

why did you put Qhy

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