How to defeat endless

[wjxway]

I've been playing endless at hardest difficulty, but can only survive till round 80-ish, and will start to see drastic destruction of towers and walls since round 70-ish.
I have two layers of trebuchet and stone thrower, with crossbows and large bows in between, and an extra layer of trebuchet behind the walls. While I can prevent most of the enemy stone throwers from coming close, I cannot prevent the mass from reaching the walls. I also tried to add a layer of solders in front of the walls and healers on the walls, but the solders just die immediately. I am a bit confused because I see a lot of videos online use same or even weaker defenses but can get to round 200-ish. Any ideas how can I improve my defenses? Thanks!

[Fetchbunny]

Do you have everyone targeting strongest target? That will cause everyone to target siege.

[wjxway]

Originally posted by Plzbanme:

Do you have everyone targeting strongest target? That will cause everyone to target siege.

I let about a half of the trebuchet target the strongest and all others targeting the closest. I observed that there will be a huge mass of giant rebels left to attack my solders/walls every time, any good ways to defeat them?

[wjxway]

I uploaded my defense layout
https://imgur.com/a/KwhK6Rf

[PokerSmile]

IMHO,
First,
Replace all walls with towers (as soon as possible whenever possible)
Towers are much more difficult for enemy to get through/destroy/knock down
The cost of towers is well worth the defense you get for them
I think a unit of wall is 350 defense? Where the tower defense is 1400? All the enemy need is one or two wall slots to fall and they are through. Whereby the entire tower must fall for the enemy to get through.

Second,
Place trebuchet's on the towers you built to replace your walls. The more enemy killed at a distance the fewer enemy can reach the towers and destroy them.

Third,
Move catapults behind trebuchet's so their range is just beyond the tower walls. They should be used to defend the tower walls not attack waves. Attacking waves is the responsibility of trebudhets & ballistas.

Fourth,
Having a way, a path for builders to reach your towers to repair them without getting killed is a great asset to have. They can repair towers whilst fighting is on going.

Fifth,
Much like catapults I would have bowmen and archers to have the range of the tower walls and not much further. Again, I view smaller ranged weapons are those I use to defend. Whilst trebuchets and ballistas should be used as 'offensive' defensive weapons reaching the enemy from a distance which renders the attackers ranged weaponry useless.

Sixth,
Upgrades! Get all the upgrades as quickly as you can. That is obvious but....

Again these are just my opinions.
Good luck!

[wjxway]

Originally posted by PokerSmile:

IMHO,
First,
Replace all walls with towers (as soon as possible whenever possible)
Towers are much more difficult for enemy to get through/destroy/knock down
The cost of towers is well worth the defense you get for them
I think a unit of wall is 350 defense? Where the tower defense is 1400? All the enemy need is one or two wall slots to fall and they are through. Whereby the entire tower must fall for the enemy to get through.

Second,
Place trebuchet's on the towers you built to replace your walls. The more enemy killed at a distance the fewer enemy can reach the towers and destroy them.

Third,
Move catapults behind trebuchet's so their range is just beyond the tower walls. They should be used to defend the tower walls not attack waves. Attacking waves is the responsibility of trebudhets & ballistas.

Fourth,
Having a way, a path for builders to reach your towers to repair them without getting killed is a great asset to have. They can repair towers whilst fighting is on going.

Fifth,
Much like catapults I would have bowmen and archers to have the range of the tower walls and not much further. Again, I view smaller ranged weapons are those I use to defend. Whilst trebuchets and ballistas should be used as 'offensive' defensive weapons reaching the enemy from a distance which renders the attackers ranged weaponry useless.

Sixth,
Upgrades! Get all the upgrades as quickly as you can. That is obvious but....

Again these are just my opinions.
Good luck!

Hi! Thanks for your suggestions, especially the leave a way for builders part, I haven't thought about that. The problem I have now is how can I deter the giants. They have 200 HP and each trebuchet shot deals merely 15 damage. so I need 15 shots to destroy them (that's if every shot is accurate) which is quite hard to get considering their moving speed. Now with my trebuchets I can kill all but giants at range.

[PokerSmile]

Ballista's never miss!

[Fetchbunny]

Originally posted by wjxway:

Originally posted by PokerSmile:

IMHO,
First,
Replace all walls with towers (as soon as possible whenever possible)
Towers are much more difficult for enemy to get through/destroy/knock down
The cost of towers is well worth the defense you get for them
I think a unit of wall is 350 defense? Where the tower defense is 1400? All the enemy need is one or two wall slots to fall and they are through. Whereby the entire tower must fall for the enemy to get through.

Second,
Place trebuchet's on the towers you built to replace your walls. The more enemy killed at a distance the fewer enemy can reach the towers and destroy them.

Third,
Move catapults behind trebuchet's so their range is just beyond the tower walls. They should be used to defend the tower walls not attack waves. Attacking waves is the responsibility of trebudhets & ballistas.

Fourth,
Having a way, a path for builders to reach your towers to repair them without getting killed is a great asset to have. They can repair towers whilst fighting is on going.

Fifth,
Much like catapults I would have bowmen and archers to have the range of the tower walls and not much further. Again, I view smaller ranged weapons are those I use to defend. Whilst trebuchets and ballistas should be used as 'offensive' defensive weapons reaching the enemy from a distance which renders the attackers ranged weaponry useless.

Sixth,
Upgrades! Get all the upgrades as quickly as you can. That is obvious but....

Again these are just my opinions.
Good luck!

Hi! Thanks for your suggestions, especially the leave a way for builders part, I haven't thought about that. The problem I have now is how can I deter the giants. They have 200 HP and each trebuchet shot deals merely 15 damage. so I need 15 shots to destroy them (that's if every shot is accurate) which is quite hard to get considering their moving speed. Now with my trebuchets I can kill all but giants at range.

Up your fire density then. Nothing your wall should be all large towers. Leave a gap and build more large towers. Do in 2x2 squares and leave a gap. Put trebuchet in there. That is it. That density of fire will kill everything.

[wjxway]

Originally posted by Plzbanme:

Originally posted by wjxway:

Hi! Thanks for your suggestions, especially the leave a way for builders part, I haven't thought about that. The problem I have now is how can I deter the giants. They have 200 HP and each trebuchet shot deals merely 15 damage. so I need 15 shots to destroy them (that's if every shot is accurate) which is quite hard to get considering their moving speed. Now with my trebuchets I can kill all but giants at range.

Up your fire density then. Nothing your wall should be all large towers. Leave a gap and build more large towers. Do in 2x2 squares and leave a gap. Put trebuchet in there. That is it. That density of fire will kill everything.

All trebuchet or trebuchet + large bows + stone thrower? I put some crossbows in towers too so they can deal with enemies that comes close. I guess I should be more dedicated to trebuchet and add MORE layers of it.

[AshaMarie]

You definitely need Ballastas in the mix too. They are super effective at clearing out enemy siege units and hulks. I think the idea is to place a layer of ballastas in front with layer of catapults behind them. If you decide to use crossbow men, remember that they will greatly consume your population as you will need them in bulk. It may not hurt to have a tower of them in the mix on each side, but that's going to be really expensive in pop. Instead, you probably want some melee forces backed back them in case of emergency. Of course, before you can even use the late-game siege units, you going to want to use mostly archers and crossbowmen for defense. Group of melee can be sent outside of walls early on to help walls survive longer too, but keep in mind the enemy siege units will make it hard for them to hold the enemy. Luckily, ballastas on towers have incredible range so just make sure they can reach the enemy cats before they fire on your stuff. Otherwise, consider spawning some dark knights in middle of them.