Cheaters already(((

[Ninja Lee]

It's a shame to play in such funny game with cheats...CHEATERS - YOU SCUM.
Examples
- many times some players have attacks MUCH MORE FASTER THAN MINE = hack,
- may time when i land a strike on opponent - nothing happend and he pucnhes me = hack,
- last mach in frozen zone = CAT can't be punched and after it was fly away to frozen zone - it walk back after 10+ seconds there= hack scum!!!
BAN HACKERS!!!!!!!!!!

[Winchester7314]

Origineel geplaatst door Hartland:

We had cheaters 2 days ago.
1. Some maps they were immune to knockout. We landed several heavy punches and headbutts, and nothing dropped them. In fact, I headbutted one of them and I was knocked out as a result of it, he just picked me up and tossed me over the side.

Do people just skip tutorials where it explains you can be randomly knocked out when headbutting? Akin to hurting yourself in confusion like pokemon...

[Winchester7314]

Origineel geplaatst door Marilyn Monroe:

Origineel geplaatst door Macchi:

Could you please share a video of what you've seen as a cheater?

I don't know if this is in that realm but by comparison in this video. This person hits me hard enough to knock me out for a full 6 seconds. enough that i die within 2 seconds in the smoke, and then you can see them get knocked off and instantly they're back on their feet but still spend almost 4 seconds in the same exact spot without dying. https://youtu.be/zL-_6lIS97g
Can't tell if serverr is horribly desynced or player is not from the US but i have definitely noticed players like this, they immediately b reak a knock down, somehow toss you super far barely touching you, and your attacks bounce off them no matter when you hit them.

Origineel geplaatst door Hartland:

the gas with a weapon. The level was progressing and gas was rising. We died on the platform, he lived on the ground, got up immediately from knockout and won the match from the gas area, we somehow got gassed on the platform before he was gassed on the ground? It might be that on Ichiban that eventually once the game has gone on long enough the gas makes it up to the platform to kill you, but I would imagine at that point the gas would or should at least kill whoever is on the ground. Maybe the gas depletes HP, but I would say after a shovel to the face he should have died quickly... 2x HP?

I'm noticing a trend of peoples fundamental misunderstandings of the games logic and rules being construed as cheating, which is what makes determining real cheating difficult.
The fact of the matter is, the game is just damn weird and inconsistent sometimes. I myself have recovered from gas when I didn't think I should have survived. Also to a more specific point, the gas doesnt just "rise" it also comes down from the back of the map. So there are cases where someone higher than someone else dies to gas first, because they were climbing the back wall.
The reason I so strongly push back against the so called cheating is because its totally possible for these things to happen without cheats....the game is just weird.

[Demonsouls1993]

Origineel geplaatst door Ninja Lee:

It's a shame to play in such funny game with cheats...CHEATERS - YOU SCUM.
Examples
- many times some players have attacks MUCH MORE FASTER THAN MINE = hack,
- may time when i land a strike on opponent - nothing happend and he pucnhes me = hack,
- last mach in frozen zone = CAT can't be punched and after it was fly away to frozen zone - it walk back after 10+ seconds there= hack scum!!!
BAN HACKERS!!!!!!!!!!

You new to online gaming there where cheaters in the beta tests

[Ame]

Origineel geplaatst door Winchester7314:

[quote=Marilyn
I'm noticing a trend of peoples fundamental misunderstandings of the games logic and rules being construed as cheating, which is what makes determining real cheating difficult.
The fact of the matter is, the game is just damn weird and inconsistent sometimes. I myself have recovered from gas when I didn't think I should have survived. Also to a more specific point, the gas doesnt just "rise" it also comes down from the back of the map. So there are cases where someone higher than someone else dies to gas first, because they were climbing the back wall.
The reason I so strongly push back against the so called cheating is because its totally possible for these things to happen without cheats....the game is just weird.

You aren't the dev, so take a seat. The dev has asked for video so they can see the interaction live, he's the only response that matters in any of these cases. Because whether something is inconsistent when its not supposed to be, the servers or someone is legitimately cheating the system, he is supposed to be made aware of it so he can adjust it in a patch.

Also with a VAC ban on your record, your words mean nothing.

[Winchester7314]

Origineel geplaatst door Marilyn Monroe:

You aren't the dev, so take a seat. The dev has asked for video so they can see the interaction live, he's the only response that matters in any of these cases. Because whether something is inconsistent when its not supposed to be, the servers or someone is legitimately cheating the system, he is supposed to be made aware of it so he can adjust it in a patch.

Also with a VAC ban on your record, your words mean nothing.

Lolol I knew that one was coming.
1. I can share my opinion. Im speaking up because I genuinely enjoy this game, and hate seeing it torn down by misinformation and wild accusations.
2. It was an FoV slider in cod ghosts, that they previously allowed, and quietly stopped allowing without my knowledge a year later. They launched without one and implemented one after the fact, in updates, and decided to ban external sliders they previously allowed. This occured over 7 years ago. And its a gameban not VAC ban. So if you want to be technical, please do better to be correct. Otherwise you're further proving the point that people might be incorrect about the issue.
And this isnt a "case" its a discussion. You know? Like the top of the page where it says "General Discussions." Soinstead of telling me to "take a seat" Robocop, maybe just talk like a normal person...

[Waffle McBORED]

I don't know about cheaters but I've seen one AFK bot already, and seeing as how there is no report system, votekick system or an anticheat, I don't see why there wouldn't be cheaters either:
https://streamable.com/kzubpd
(Look at where my cursor is)

[Flippy 💜]

What do you expect? The game's already up on the green steam and can play online. Cheaters don't need to buy the game, so they can do whatever they want.

[Vasitheas]

I'm not sure if there are cheaters at this point, but having played quite a bit, I've noticed some things that I wish I recorded. They can be considered unusual.

For example, there were times when I picked up enemies (with both hands) but they weighed similar to a rock, taking forever. When they picked me up (with both hands), I was light as a pillow, and they were quick about it.

There was also a time when I noticed someone knocking me out then picking me with one hand and doing a 180 turn, throwing me into the hole.

[Talon]

Origineel geplaatst door Macchi:

Origineel geplaatst door NuKs:

I saw too those "slow freezing" guys.

Would you please share a video of "Slow Freezing" people?

is it reportable for teams of 2 to team up against others and purposely die to let one team win? had 2 teams on ice breaker map not attack each other and when only their teams alive same colour kept purposely jumping off pretty much making it a 4v2v2 stack, if so where can i send the proof please

[Hartland]

Origineel geplaatst door Winchester7314:

Origineel geplaatst door Hartland:

We had cheaters 2 days ago.
1. Some maps they were immune to knockout. We landed several heavy punches and headbutts, and nothing dropped them. In fact, I headbutted one of them and I was knocked out as a result of it, he just picked me up and tossed me over the side.

Do people just skip tutorials where it explains you can be randomly knocked out when headbutting? Akin to hurting yourself in confusion like pokemon...

I'm fully aware. I've played this game enough I understand the rules. I've seen some weird ♥♥♥♥ happen in this game. This was very different. We stayed in this lobby for long enough, they won every game, they won most rounds where they didn't fall to their deaths. There were games where they didn't get knocked out once, from any perspective, not just mine.
Maybe it was host advantage, maybe everyone had enough lag that they couldn't get a lick in, but it didn't look like lag to me. I'm just sharing my experience with something I believe to be cheating and the fact that the elements were all options that the host can set in the lobby for all players. Maybe if a player with CheatEngine can find the switch that can change those settings and modify them in-game for their own client, they might be subject to an entirely different set of rules compared to everyone else. Who knows.. It's a unity game, they're not exactly hack proof. My regret is that I chose to leave the lobby after maybe 7 or so games instead of launching OBS to record. Cheaters are going to cheat, I chose to join another lobby instead of going for round 8 and guaranteeing a loss.

I genuinely don't think you're trying to come off as a ♥♥♥♥, and some strange things might be justifiable, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that some people are manipulating the game, or game packets if they're the host during setup. I can't see the code to comment on how the developers chose to implement game setup and rule enforcement, I wasn't even planning to comment. I felt I had something to contribute here, so I have. Should I come across a similar situation going forward, I'll definitely be more vigilant and start OBS. Even if I'm wrong, I'm happy to accept that if that's a ruling made by the developers.

[[N64] Nymph]

skill issue in a party game...

[Winchester7314]

Origineel geplaatst door Hartland:

Origineel geplaatst door Winchester7314:

Do people just skip tutorials where it explains you can be randomly knocked out when headbutting? Akin to hurting yourself in confusion like pokemon...

I'm fully aware. I've played this game enough I understand the rules. I've seen some weird ♥♥♥♥ happen in this game. This was very different. We stayed in this lobby for long enough, they won every game, they won most rounds where they didn't fall to their deaths. There were games where they didn't get knocked out once, from any perspective, not just mine.
Maybe it was host advantage, maybe everyone had enough lag that they couldn't get a lick in, but it didn't look like lag to me. I'm just sharing my experience with something I believe to be cheating and the fact that the elements were all options that the host can set in the lobby for all players. Maybe if a player with CheatEngine can find the switch that can change those settings and modify them in-game for their own client, they might be subject to an entirely different set of rules compared to everyone else. Who knows.. It's a unity game, they're not exactly hack proof. My regret is that I chose to leave the lobby after maybe 7 or so games instead of launching OBS to record. Cheaters are going to cheat, I chose to join another lobby instead of going for round 8 and guaranteeing a loss.

I genuinely don't think you're trying to come off as a ♥♥♥♥, and some strange things might be justifiable, but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that some people are manipulating the game, or game packets if they're the host during setup. I can't see the code to comment on how the developers chose to implement game setup and rule enforcement, I wasn't even planning to comment. I felt I had something to contribute here, so I have. Should I come across a similar situation going forward, I'll definitely be more vigilant and start OBS. Even if I'm wrong, I'm happy to accept that if that's a ruling made by the developers.

You are correct, I'm not trying to come off as a ♥♥♥♥, but I'm just being straightforward.
The fact is, this game has weird stuff happen. And people are conflaiting the games logic, or lack of, as cheating, and getting up in arms, as if its the salem witch trials or something. Its ignorant and ridiculous. I'm not saying you specifically, my quote was just to point out that the tutorial explains the reason for the self knockout you experienced.
On a seperate not, it should be said, if its an inconveniance to have to have OBS on the ready, then I'd look into shadowplay if you have an nvidia card. If your only desire is to record cheating, that would be a better option. You can enable highlights, where at the click of a hot key, your card will render out a custom time of your previous play, you can get up to and above 5 minutes. with minimal to no percievable performance drops(1-5fps at most, but probably nothing in a game like this)

[-StarlinkEDMPaypal-]

Origineel geplaatst door Emperor Napoleon:

Like PUBG, a PRC game.

PUBG is a Korean game development by Korean studio , which is totally different to this

games in Shanghai studio , however is it have recorded replay to analysis , the easy anti

cheat software and UAC is spyware we thought , but at least the Geek can calculate how to

get Legion skin with less micro transition

[RPG Gamer Man]

Origineel geplaatst door Jellie Juice:

Origineel geplaatst door xd:

skill issue lmao learn to play the game im max lvl never got a cheater u need skill bro

I remember when people were saying stupid things like this when players were discovering cheaters on Fall Guys when it first released. Didn't take long for cheaters to do it with that game either.

Yep. Even casual games get cheaters. A good example of this is Fall Guys. i think it was like 3 days after it came out and cheaters infested it. MY friends and i quit the game because of cheaters, even after fall guys devs tried to fix it with the cheater island thing. Once a game has cheaters, it is basically ruined forever unless developers can fix the problem then and now.

People also clamied it was skill there too. Most people that post this kinda crap are usually using the cheats themselves. Regardless, people claimed in fall guys there was not cheaters, and you can see how that ended up. Do not think it is not cheaters yet. I am sure more proof will come out to clarify that there is cheating in this game. If i or my friend played this game, we video all our stuff. In fact one of our videos was the proof in fall guys that people were cheating. It was one of the first videos posted up about it. I suggest if someone on here wants to definetly prove cheaters, please video copy your rounds. It really helps put the naysayers down.

[PunisheR]

Guarantee it wasn't a cheat. You just don't know how to play