What happened to the MG45?

[KaZAamM]

I used to be able to unlock the MG45 at Tucker's Hotspring camp. Now it's not available... Completed the game, and doing it the second time, and still Alkai still doesn't have it available...

I don't understand why.

[KaZAamM]

Does the update remove the MG45 from Alkai's inventory?

[Slowianin]

I still have it

[Simple Kind of Man]

mods?

[KaZAamM]

Yeah, one of my mods that gives you a supped up MG45, somehow disables the MG45 to appear in HotSprings... I disabled all my mods and launched a new game and it appeared. But the moment I enabled all my mods, it disappeared again. So I unlocked the MG45 before I installed the mods, the MG45 disappeared from Alcai's inventory, but it was still available to select in the special weapon category.

[Ancient]

Mods are gonna be broken until Bend gets us to a stable patch that can then be modded properly again.

80% of the modders on Nexus are long gone and are likely not coming back, so those old mods from the stable release version are never going to work again. They changed too much and we will need new and updated ones to get the same stuff going again. Give it time or figure out how steam manifest updates work and manually roll back to the pre-DLC versions of the game that the old mods work with.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Ancient:

Mods are gonna be broken until Bend gets us to a stable patch that can then be modded properly again.

80% of the modders on Nexus are long gone and are likely not coming back, so those old mods from the stable release version are never going to work again. They changed too much and we will need new and updated ones to get the same stuff going again. Give it time or figure out how steam manifest updates work and manually roll back to the pre-DLC versions of the game that the old mods work with.

Which is one of the reasons I wish developers would stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with games years after they released.

[Ancient]

Originally posted by Gary:

Originally posted by Ancient:

Mods are gonna be broken until Bend gets us to a stable patch that can then be modded properly again.

80% of the modders on Nexus are long gone and are likely not coming back, so those old mods from the stable release version are never going to work again. They changed too much and we will need new and updated ones to get the same stuff going again. Give it time or figure out how steam manifest updates work and manually roll back to the pre-DLC versions of the game that the old mods work with.

Which is one of the reasons I wish developers would stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with games years after they released.

I agree. I just tell it like it is. This won't be fixed for months because the changes are so significant. if I had authored a mod from the old times, I'm not going to be thrilled to have to fix it now, years later.

[Gary]

At this point I think Steam needs to implement full version control controlled by the customer or start issuing full refunds when companies do this.

I don't care if the game was purchased 10 years ago and someone has 10,000 hours played. It's no longer the product they bought.

[Bolski]

Originally posted by Gary:

At this point I think Steam needs to implement full version control controlled by the customer or start issuing full refunds when companies do this.

I don't care if the game was purchased 10 years ago and someone has 10,000 hours played. It's no longer the product they bought.

You can roll back. I've posted a link several times on how to rollback to v1.07. Here it is again. 😉

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1259420/discussions/0/596273426415488270/

[Gary]

Originally posted by Bolski:

Originally posted by Gary:

At this point I think Steam needs to implement full version control controlled by the customer or start issuing full refunds when companies do this.

I don't care if the game was purchased 10 years ago and someone has 10,000 hours played. It's no longer the product they bought.

You can roll back. I've posted a link several times on how to rollback to v1.07. Here it is again. 😉

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1259420/discussions/0/596273426415488270/

That's not the same thing as full version control and anyone involved in any kind of software development knows that.

I'm sick and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tired of developers ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ up long after a game has been released. This game is far from the only one I've had this issue with.

Stellaris (Paradox) and Fall Out 4 (Bethesda adding the creation club) are two other examples of this ♥♥♥♥ that come to mind.

I want full ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ version control of what I've bought. No more of this mandatory update ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Every update should be opt in. No more of this arcane ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Bolski]

Originally posted by Gary:

Originally posted by Bolski:

You can roll back. I've posted a link several times on how to rollback to v1.07. Here it is again. 😉

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1259420/discussions/0/596273426415488270/

That's not the same thing as full version control and anyone involved in any kind of software development knows that.

I'm sick and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tired of developers ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ up long after a game has been released. This game is far from the only one I've had this issue with.

Stellaris (Paradox) and Fall Out 4 (Bethesda adding the creation club) are two other examples of this ♥♥♥♥ that come to mind.

I want full ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ version control of what I've bought. No more of this mandatory update ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Every update should be opt in. No more of this arcane ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

It's an option that exists. That's all I posted. I'm just grateful that there is an option to rollback to a previous version. Yes, it's not intuitive, but it's there and people are sharing it. That's better than not having ANY option at all.

And even though Bend Studios released the "upgrade", Valve has to approve it and allow it to be released on Steam, which they did. So Valve is part of the process.

[Gary]

You're not understanding me. I'm saying that Valve needs to start offering full customer side version control of every title they sell or start offering refunds every time an update breaks or changes something in a way a customer doesn't like.

[Grubbs008]

Originally posted by Gary:

You're not understanding me. I'm saying that Valve needs to start offering full customer side version control of every title they sell or start offering refunds every time an update breaks or changes something in a way a customer doesn't like.

if they did that, then their big game sales that go all the way up to a whopping 20% off, will be 10% instead to make up for the huge amount of work of clicking a few buttons to make what you said happen.

[Gary]

I don't care. After Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 I'm ready to demand a refund for my ENTIRE Steam Library.

That game was such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and the developers absolutely lied about what it was going to be. I had never really thought about the whole "you don't own what you bought" until I wanted to sell it just to get rid of it.

Now I have ZERO tolerance left for this whole "You will own nothing and be happy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥." Developers making arbitrary and unasked for changes to a game long after it's release is part of that.

[Ancient]

Originally posted by Gary:

I don't care. After Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 I'm ready to demand a refund for my ENTIRE Steam Library.

That game was such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and the developers absolutely lied about what it was going to be. I had never really thought about the whole "you don't own what you bought" until I wanted to sell it just to get rid of it.

Now I have ZERO tolerance left for this whole "You will own nothing and be happy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥." Developers making arbitrary and unasked for changes to a game long after it's release is part of that.

Just don't buy anything. That's the secret. You can go sail and get an idea how bad it is before you pay for anything.

If it's good after 40+ hours, then you buy. No one should just be buying games blindly anymore. The bait and switch is real.

My most played game in the last 6 months is the Half Sword Demo. That's the current state of games today. It's all ruin. It's all been filthy rags in my sight.