Whats up with sarah!

[tunedskillz]

I love this game, but why is sarahs face always dirty? I mean they have water at the militia camp. Also, deak literally has a tattoo of "sarah forever", and nobody at camp noticed even when i said my wifes name was maggie?

[bunny de fluff]

Why did they hide the fact that they are a married couple in the colonel camp? I just laughed when I saw this absurdity.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Why did they hide the fact that they are a married couple in the colonel camp? I just laughed when I saw this absurdity.

Oh, it gets soooooo much worse. The story is notorious for bombing from the militia camp until end of game. Wait until you see a certain someone return and get given top in control position for no sane reason... Sarah's problematic bizarre behavior continues until close to the end, too. :/

The only not totally batsh- crazy written character at that point is Boozer and that African American (forgot name) who has Sarah's ring from the first camp in that region. Oh, and the guy who makes the explosives... actually not that bad it turns out. Almost forgot about him.

[bunny de fluff]

@Xengre: on at least two occasions, sarah asked our protagonist why is he still here(in the camp), my head almost imploded, you dense woman, our deacon was her husband and still loved her that's why, how dense must one get to ask their still married husband such thing? I meant, I almost cannot suspend my disbelief at that point. Freaking woman. I don't hate her or anything, it's just the whole thing can be so incoherent sometimes. The writers are not good, or maybe one writer among them was really bad or something. Because sometimes the plots were nice.

[harken23]

The game changes in some pretty fundamental ways once you ride south, and not all for the better. I *think* the reasoning behind not telling anyone that Sarah is his wife, tho, is bkz he knows they'd never let her leave (or him, probably, by that point), and he wants to take her and bug out ASAP. That sounds easier if the camp doesn't know they're connected.

[tunedskillz]

All i wanted was someone to be like "oh whats up with that Sarah Forever tattoo?

[Sword Master Bob]

Decon is old enough to have kids. Maybe having a child named Sarah that died as a baby is what some of them were thinking and didn't want to pry, Try thinking outside the box next time.

[Zoot_Allures]

He doesn't tell anyone his true wife's name since that would make them believe he has ulterior motives to join the militia. And who knows what that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy commander would do.
No idea why they made S an officer. He really was a BS artist, and probably fed them some BS story about his past.

[T9]

the plot is not the strongest lol

[Makeithappen]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Why did they hide the fact that they are a married couple in the colonel camp? I just laughed when I saw this absurdity.

You might have missed all the sketchy stories about the militia up to that point. The militia was known for murdering any camp whether it's peaceful or not, they didn't care. So hiding where he was from was important to protect the other camps. Also, it was stated that the militia doesn't allow any relationships with other members. These were both covered in the early moments of the ride north when he first met some militia guys during a bear attack and very soon after. Pretty much why Deacon and Sarah keep it formal while they interact within the militia camp.

Deacon didn't show his wife's picture to captain Kuri because he saw that Kuri was wearing the ring he gave to Sarah. So perhaps a lot of you missed these points during the story of the game.

[bunny de fluff]

Booker: it cannot be rationalized like that. They were not forcing divorce on married couple. I know about the snake ring, it was at the first time deek came into the camp and he knew nothing about anyone. It was when they met that didn't make sense. It's hard to tell you why the reaction was wrong because I'm not a native English speaker, but trust me, the whole couple thing was handled poorly.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

@Xengre: on at least two occasions, sarah asked our protagonist why is he still here(in the camp), my head almost imploded

Yeah those were quite the scenes... >.<

I'm also annoyed at the campus when they're leaving and Sarah's past comes up that is never pursued whatsoever despite being made dramatically important, and it isn't written in a way to tie into her current behavior towards Deacon at all either.

I also was pretty aggravated when she didn't trust her own husband that always supported her with what she was trying to accomplish, saving the infected and restoring their humanity, and when it is finally forced it just makes the entire scene fall flat or even arguably backlash the entire point because this is his untrusting wife we see in stark contrast to Deacon's character.

Originally posted by Zoot_Allures:

No idea why they made S an officer. He really was a BS artist, and probably fed them some BS story about his past.

lol the moment S showed up, got immediate flawless trust of Colonel and others, and made such an exceedingly high position in mere seconds. I'm not sure I've ever witnessed writing degrade that fast in anything (games, tv, movies, etc.) and then his later stuff... Just... It is very obvious they wanted to do more but had to suddenly end the game and release it so some of the south area stuff is messed up and much worse than it should be including writing but this... Damn, still not excusable to mess up that bad.

Originally posted by Booker:

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

Why did they hide the fact that they are a married couple in the colonel camp? I just laughed when I saw this absurdity.

You might have missed all the sketchy stories about the militia up to that point. The militia was known for murdering any camp whether it's peaceful or not, they didn't care. So hiding where he was from was important to protect the other camps. Also, it was stated that the militia doesn't allow any relationships with other members. These were both covered in the early moments of the ride north when he first met some militia guys during a bear attack and very soon after. Pretty much why Deacon and Sarah keep it formal while they interact within the militia camp.

Deacon didn't show his wife's picture to captain Kuri because he saw that Kuri was wearing the ring he gave to Sarah. So perhaps a lot of you missed these points during the story of the game.

Eh... the problem is the Colonel was very very religious and into proper marriage couples. The two were legally married. It was a pretty sketchy plot element. The camp merely doesn't allow relationships that are not appropriate like sex outside of wedlock. The colonel even states such examples a few times.

I could have, if not for another issue, understood him not saying initially to avoid complications until he found out Sarah's and the group's situation but he still didn't afterwards which is pretty irrational. However, the other issue is he openly discussed Sarah with everyone when, for all he knew, she could have been in that group or associated with it. Then he gets to the south and suddenly goes mum which could cost him his change to find her and is such a strange change of his behavior. Very inconsistent writing logic. As for hiding it from Kuri, that part is a bit more complex, though still has its iffy elements.

[Orge Lambart]

I'm playing myself too and scratching my head at that part,, I can understand when he first was getting to the militia and was unsure of what they were doing and their motives, but once he was ingrained in the militia and proved himself to be dependable, why wouldn't he just say.. .

Sarah is my wife, here goes her photo, I've been looking for her and obviously I didn't want to say anything about it until I knew you guys were alright.. Even more shocking was Sarah acting completely oblivious to the fact that Deacon came there to find her.. The way she was acting was like.. What!! not a wife finding out her husband she was supposed to have loved was alive after 2 years but like someone annoyed that a person they barely could stand found them.. I understand she was likely went through a lot, but the way she acted was weird..

Also with how much the Colonel talked about God and religion, you'd figure he would have felt it was ungodly if a man and wife weren't together.. I get the point that they wouldn't have wanted them to leave.. They didn't want anyone to leave anyway, and once they went AWOL the sentence was death

The first part of the game was great, the second half once you ride south was completely cringe and left me saying man who wrote this garbage. It was almost like they spent a few years building the build up to Sarah and once they let the player find her they were like, well what now..

[simon.pete15]

Here is a link to a podcast by Claire Weaver (8-Bit-Terror), which discusses exactly this issue. Spawnicus Rex is her guest on this episode.

https://youtu.be/LY8lRzgQTIk?si=bXw7KiTSk3jY5Q-J

Also, you should read Sarahs Lab' notes. They're in the collectables.

[simon.pete15]

Originally posted by "Orge Lambart":

but once he was ingrained in the militia and proved himself to be dependable, why wouldn't he just say.. .

He doesn't prove himself dependable for a while. So then the question is, "why didn't you say so earlier?" Saying "I wanted to check you out first", won't wash
Also, why was Kouri wearing his ring???
His surname is Saint John, hers is Whitaker, are they just claiming pre-apocalypse marriage?
She's an officer, he isn't. Fraternisation is a hanging offence between equal ranks, between an officer and a non-commissioned ranker???? That was 'discouraged' in the real army btw.
The Colonel is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ crazy, if he didn't kill them, or her, for not telling him, Deek would have been 'disappeared'. Or maybe hung in front of her to teach her a lesson.

Check that podcast I've linked above. Also there's another episode (48) where she interviews Sam Witwer. The reaction most of you have is mentioned and Sam Witwer is surprised you would think that it should've been different (from minute 39).

[simon.pete15]

Originally posted by tunedskillz:

I love this game, but why is sarahs face always dirty? I mean they have water at the militia camp. Also, deak literally has a tattoo of "sarah forever", and nobody at camp noticed even when i said my wifes name was maggie?

Dirty face?? It's a scar, not dirt.

His tattoo doesn't say Sarah Forever, it only says Sarah with some swirls around it.
Sarah could be his daughter, his first girlfriend, his ex-wife, anyone he had had a connection with. Once you've got it, a tattoo is difficult to get rid of, even now.
He told Capt' Kouri his wifes name was Maggie, there's no reason to disbelieve him.