Newts

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Do the Newts ever respawn?

I remember coming across the Newts at the beginning at some gas station they where on a roof.

But after clearing that area of infected and moving on I came back to find the Newts still weren't back.

So are the Newts just very rare one time enemies?

[jrf773]

They pop up randomly except for a few scripted events.

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Postat inițial de SomeDudeNamedJohn:

They pop up randomly except for a few scripted events.

thanks

[BeeBop Huckleberry]

Pretty sure the gas station newts were mostly scripted. But, there are plenty of other newts throughout the game and I'm 90% sure they respawn. I say 90% because I never really paid attention to newts respawning, but reflecting on memory I do remember going to places more than once, killing the newts, and they would be there again if I returned... I think.

[Xengre]

I also want to mention they're glitchy. I almost always find them solo, not on roof but on the ground, and they almost always attack unprovoked while you are at full HP so kill them if you see them alone on the ground.

The only ones I've seen so far in my playthrough that aren't glitching and are on roof territories like they're supposed to be per lore are only in missions. Their appearances are quite rare, too. Basically, what John said.

I've not seen any other zombie types, either, but there are a bunch of trophies of other types to sell... but this game has three major map sections (and I don't mean the forest on east and desert on west, but equal to that split up between those two, the middle of map (scroll down into fog) and the final section which I'm not at, yet.

[simon.pete15]

Postat inițial de Xengre:

I also want to mention they're glitchy. I almost always find them solo, not on roof but on the ground, and they almost always attack unprovoked while you are at full HP so kill them if you see them alone on the ground.
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< snipped > but this game has three major map sections (and I don't mean the forest on east and desert on west, but equal to that split up between those two, the middle of map (scroll down into fog) and the final section which I'm not at, yet.

Newts are allowed on the ground, it isn't a glitch. Lore is, they'll attack anyone who trespasses on 'their' patch, or who appears threatening to them. If enough of them hit you, you'll die, so yes, kill them when you see them.

Yes, there are three sections of the map. The North bit, Tucker and Copelands camps. The middle bit which comes into play fairly quickly. The Southern section.
When you go to the Southern section, you're locked out of the whole of the Northern sections until qute a bit later in the game. So make sure there's nothing you should do before going there. You are warned before you go, it isn't that you go into the South and then find you can't get back, just don't be surprised by it. Once you start the scripted ride South, you're committed to it.

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Postat inițial de Xengre:

I also want to mention they're glitchy. I almost always find them solo, not on roof but on the ground, and they almost always attack unprovoked while you are at full HP so kill them if you see them alone on the ground.
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< snipped > but this game has three major map sections (and I don't mean the forest on east and desert on west, but equal to that split up between those two, the middle of map (scroll down into fog) and the final section which I'm not at, yet.

Newts are allowed on the ground, it isn't a glitch. Lore is, they'll attack anyone who trespasses on 'their' patch, or who appears threatening to them. If enough of them hit you, you'll die, so yes, kill them when you see them.

Yes, there are three sections of the map. The North bit, Tucker and Copelands camps. The middle bit which comes into play fairly quickly. The Southern section.
When you go to the Southern section, you're locked out of the whole of the Northern sections until qute a bit later in the game. So make sure there's nothing you should do before going there. You are warned before you go, it isn't that you go into the South and then find you can't get back, just don't be surprised by it. Once you start the scripted ride South, you're committed to it.

oh so once you leave and go through the snow area you can never return to Belknap?

[simon.pete15]

Postat inițial de Diseased Magnitron:

oh so once you leave and go through the snow area you can never return to Belknap?

You can and in fact have to return North. But that is the start of the 'end of the story game'.
I'm saying nothing more. Spoilers. Play the game through, you'll enjoy it better without spoilers

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Postat inițial de Diseased Magnitron:

oh so once you leave and go through the snow area you can never return to Belknap?

You can and in fact have to return North. But that is the start of the 'end of the story game'.
I'm saying nothing more. Spoilers. Play the game through, you'll enjoy it better without spoilers

lol well I'll probably complete everything north before going south like the camps etc

[Xengre]

Postat inițial de simon.pete15:

Newts are allowed on the ground, it isn't a glitch. Lore is, they'll attack anyone who trespasses on 'their' patch, or who appears threatening to them. If enough of them hit you, you'll die, so yes, kill them when you see them.

Yes, there are three sections of the map. The North bit, Tucker and Copelands camps. The middle bit which comes into play fairly quickly. The Southern section.
When you go to the Southern section, you're locked out of the whole of the Northern sections until qute a bit later in the game. So make sure there's nothing you should do before going there. You are warned before you go, it isn't that you go into the South and then find you can't get back, just don't be surprised by it. Once you start the scripted ride South, you're committed to it.

You misunderstood a bit.

Newts can be on the ground, obviously, to get to places but the issue is outside of the very few scripted events they're encountered nearly exclusively on the ground. I've seen 1, literally a single Newt, in my entire playthrough (cleared entire top region 100% and working on middle region) on a roof (and it started on the ground... the other two ignored the roof and kept patrolling the ground... and the 1 on the roof got stuck pathing on the roof to boot glitched on a sign). Every other Newt has been exclusively on the ground and usually travel in packs of 1-2, not groups like they're supposed to. The biggest Newt group I've seen is 3 (the one that got stuck). Nor are they nearby and I'm just missing the others.

Further, they're not supposed to attack you unless you are low on health or invade their territory which the 1 roof one did not (rather its AI behavior made it back away while I murdered the two ground Newts until it got stuck clipping a sign on the roof). However, when you are on the ground the entire planet is their "territory" causing the aggressive AI behavior even at full hp. That is, in fact, a glitch or programming oversight. They're extremely proactive like wolves in pursuing you on the ground even if you don't engage them and they start off in the distance. They have a long distance sensory of you unless hidden behind terrain/bush and will rush you from a significant distance to kill you. No need to shoot, make noise, or be aggressive to see this result.

Thanks about the tip south because I was not aware of that. Which mission triggers going south and whose story is it (Boozer's, Sarah's, etc.)?

[simon.pete15]

Southern section, I'm saying nothing more, spoilers.

Newts. They go onto the roof so they aren't easy prey for the adult freakers.
I've read, can't remember when or where, that Newts are roof dwellers who only attack weak humans, perceived threat humans or humans on their patch. In playing they seem to attack at any opportunity they see. But that might be at harder difficulty settings. I forget what they were like on easy or normal difficulty, it was a long time ago

I've got over 800hrs on this game. 1st play through was over 2 years ago, it took me over 200 hours to get to 100% on everthing, on easy. I was fighting the effects of a stroke which wrecked my right arm and hand (still am infact), although about 97% back to normal now, and I'm old (65 a couple of weeks ago). I hadn't been a gamer really, until the stroke. I'd played the 2013 Tomb Raider reboot and then the series. I think I've played every verion of Tomb Raider, but not as a serious gamer, just an occasional, casual player. I didn't even have a controller. Just using keyboard and mouse, and my gaming was so casual I couldn't remember what kb buttons to use. Now I use a Steam controller, no need to re-learn/muscle memory reteach to a different controller. I like it, 5* :)

[Xengre]

Yes, you read it in the section when u first meet them trying to get the bike part and Boozer gets hurt.

Congrats on recovery and finding your gaming passion.

[simon.pete15]

I should have said, I forgot (a remaining side effect of me having a stroke). There is a camp mission for Copeland which doesn't pop up until you've returned from the South. In the map, when you mouse over the areas, you get a pop-up which tells you how much is left to do in that area. Ambush Camps and so on. If you're going by that, in Copes area it'll say camp missions 6/7 (or 7/8 or whatever). You haven't missed that 1 mission, you don't get it until returning from the South.