Why is it lagging so much?

[Blaze1984HH]

The first hour was okay (80+ fps), but then, when visiting Camp Copeland for the first time, the framerate is compleltely broken, nearly unplayable (10-20 fps). Is this some kind of bug?

My system is a Xeon E5 2667v4, 32gb ddr4 and an RTX 4060Ti, so it is definately capable of 60+ fps at least. I'm on 1080p max settings and 100% render scale.

I've uploaded a video on YouTube, as you can see GPU and CPU usage are about roughly 30%, so what is the problem here?

https://youtu.be/8GIP1-7U0dc

[Blaze1984HH]

Come on, this is a 3,2 GHz 8 core machine that can literally run everything, even cpu intensive games such as Fortnite, Anno 1800 and Starfield are running without a flaw. So that can not be the reason for sure. This is nothing else than a i7 or even i9 CPU from gen 7.

[w0Lart]

no fps issues but stuttering is terrible on my ryzen 5600/rx 7800xt/32 ram 3200/SSD - any other game works fine

[Sprinkles]

Do a search on this forum. There's so many threads on this topic and it's always some obscure fix. Some people have resolved their performance issue and it turns out, it was a seemingly unrelated audio bug. Changing their default bitrate or disabling their HDMI audio - weird stuff like that. Also, some people have resolve their performance issue with disabling their e-cores (though I suppose that doesn't apply to your processor).

Honestly, those are just some stuff off the top of my head I recall reading on this forum. I haven't had *any* technical difficulties with this game since I bought it early last year. 600+ hours, most of those hours on my 15 year old x58 platform w/ a westmere OC'd x5690 processor and a AMD 6700xt 24gb DDR3 RAM Windows 10 - 1440p resolution, settings @ high or above, it avg 60-75fps near camps/towns, 90-100fps away from cpu-bound areas.

Since November, I have upgraded to a 12th gen i7, 48gb DDR5 RAM, same AMD 6700xt videocard but with new install of Win 11 OS and the only thing that's change is a huge improvement to stuttering while traveling fast on the motorcycle (my old system struggled with this) and towns/camps no longer drop my FPS dramatically. It now just stays solid at 90-110fps no matter where I am on the map as I'm entirely GPU bound now. 🤷

[Jay]

For me this happened when I was in windowed (default setting) setting it to fullscreen fixed it for me.

[simon.pete15]

Try the fixes in this troubleshooter. It's compiled from all the fixes on this game forum.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917352107

[Maviba]

Originally posted by Blaze1984HH:

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I've uploaded a video on YouTube, as you can see GPU and CPU usage are about roughly 30%, so what is the problem

This:
Xeon E5 2667v4

That's a very old server CPU and not supposed to be used for gaming.
Could also be a thermal issues, if you haven't replaced the thermal paste for 8 years now.

Also check the VRAM usage. 8 gb isn't exactly much nowadays.
Cap your fps to 60. This is a playstation game and the game was designed for 30-60 fps. So could be an engine issue as well.

[DeadBeat]

Originally posted by Maviba:

This:
Xeon E5 2667v4

That's a very old server CPU and not supposed to be used for gaming.
Could also be a thermal issues, if you haven't replaced the thermal paste for 8 years now.

Also check the VRAM usage. 8 gb isn't exactly much nowadays.
Cap your fps to 60. This is a playstation game and the game was designed for 30-60 fps. So could be an engine issue as well.

I think you're onto something here because in the video the gpu is bored only running at 20% so it's probably waiting for the cpu.

[HunZolka]

I recently did a replay and noticed that I got FPS dips even though no resource was fully utilized (30-60%).

The solution was the same as in Ryse: Son of Rome's case.

-disable Vsync in game

-in Nvidia Control panel:
-- enabled Vsync
-- set max FPS at 60 (not sure if necessary)
-- set low latency mode to Ultra

[Blaze1984HH]

Originally posted by DeadBeat:

Originally posted by Maviba:

This:
Xeon E5 2667v4

That's a very old server CPU and not supposed to be used for gaming.
Could also be a thermal issues, if you haven't replaced the thermal paste for 8 years now.

Also check the VRAM usage. 8 gb isn't exactly much nowadays.
Cap your fps to 60. This is a playstation game and the game was designed for 30-60 fps. So could be an engine issue as well.

I think you're onto something here because in the video the gpu is bored only running at 20% so it's probably waiting for the cpu.

Nah, it is no bottleneck at all. CPU is at 20-30% too, that's the strange thing. Both CPU and GPU are bored as hell but the game doesn't run like it should.

By the way, the "very old" server CPU can run any current gen game, even Cyberpunk and Starfield which are known for heavy CPU usage are running great. I have played maybe a hundred games on this machine, games that are way more demanding, and they run without a flaw. So it really must be some kind of bug.

A friend of mine is playing on a even older CPU (4th gen i5, quadcore - mine is equivalent to a 6th i7 gen octa core) and he doesn't have those problems. But he's using a Radeon GPU, so maybe NVIDIA is the culprit this time.

[DeadBeat]

The only thing I could suggest is enabling DSR in the nvidia control panel. Then run the game at 2560x1440 instead of 1920x1080 and see if you can offload more of the work to the gpu. You would probably have to reduce some graphics settings to maintain a good framerate but the gpu should be doing more of the work. In this screenshot the gpu is at 96% while the cpu is at 15%. My framerate is 143 while my 1% lows are at 111 and this is @4k with maxed graphics plus a few mods. The point is that the higher the resolution the more work that gets off loaded to the gpu so @1080p you will be more cpu bound than you will @2160p.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3154253149

[stardust]

It's your CPU, I got a 10900K with a 4090 and I have no issues, my 4090 is literally at 99% GPU usage, all maxed and no stuttering. Best U4 game ever made on PC, all other U4 games on PC run like ass, with traversal, loading and shader stutters. And most of them even need to compile shaders something that Days Gone doesn't do and still manages to run amazing. I never understood how Bend did that.

[pepeW]

Looks like typical cpu bottleneck to me in the video. Game is slowing down and just spins up when its done computing something heavy. 20-40% usage just means the game could be using 2-4 cores of your total core count of 8. The clock speed on the cpu is prob holding it back. If you try a small overclock and notice an improvement, then you have your answer.

[Maviba]

Originally posted by 62 6F 74:

. If you try a small overclock and notice an improvement, then you have your answer.

Usually you can't OC an intel xeon 5e.
Those are workstation CPUs made for servers, not for games.
They are designed to provide the maximum of stability, and therefore they have a rather low frequency as well as OC protection.

[Sprinkles]

Originally posted by Maviba:

Originally posted by 62 6F 74:

. If you try a small overclock and notice an improvement, then you have your answer.

Usually you can't OC an intel xeon 5e.
Those are workstation CPUs made for servers, not for games.
They are designed to provide the maximum of stability, and therefore they have a rather low frequency as well as OC protection.

Is it really that bad on xeon 5e? My old x5690 overclocked like crazy and made a massive difference in games. I suppose an small underclock could still be informative based on the change.

[pepeW]

Originally posted by Maviba:

Originally posted by 62 6F 74:

. If you try a small overclock and notice an improvement, then you have your answer.

Usually you can't OC an intel xeon 5e.
Those are workstation CPUs made for servers, not for games.
They are designed to provide the maximum of stability, and therefore they have a rather low frequency as well as OC protection.

I cant say Im up to date with todays xeon but I know some earlier models can be tweaked