Microstutters

[Sheepdog]

Hey guys, I am playing the game at 1440p with a I9 10900K and RTX3080 also with gsync enabled and FPS capped at 120. The game keeps the FPS stable at 120 but I keep experiencing microstutters here and there without any rhyme or reason. I tried running the game in admin mode, lower down the sound frequency, bu nothing seems to really work. I also noticed that my CPU is only running at 17% of its potential. Is the game just poorly optimized or is there some setting I might have missed on? is also anyone else experiencing similar issues? thanks!

[Allonblack]

It's the lighting. Turning the lighting setting down and it disappears. I don't understand it, but that's what it is, at least on my end.. And no, it's not worth turning off to reduce the stutter. The game looks awful without the lighting. Another "fix" seems to be just using a controller, and ♥♥♥♥ all that. No offense if controllers are your thing. I'm not handicapping myself further. I don't claim to know all the answers, nor that this will work for every system, but on my machine both of these things eliminated the issue, and believe me, I tried EVERYTHING.

A great place to test this theory is near the end of the game when you're inside the mountain, the stutter is god awful; easily the worst place to experience it in the game, outside of towns of course. I've since completed the game, stutter fest and all, but best of luck to those of you still bashing your head against the wall over this issue, as I definitely feel your pain.

[macatak]

Robert の投稿を引用：

A great place to test this theory is near the end of the game when you're inside the mountain, the stutter is god awful; easily the worst place to experience it in the game

i noticed this as well

[Electric Squall]

Hello. Sold my 6900xt and got a 3080ti. No Micro stutters anymore. I've also observed this behavior in most of my DX11 games, while using the 6900xt.

AC Origins
AC Odyssey
Control
Re3
Days Gone

All of them, with zero Micro Stutters after moving to a 3080ti.

AMD does not work well, along with DX11.

https://community.amd.com/t5/general-discussions/amd-when-will-you-fix-your-terrible-driver-overhead-for-dx11/td-p/298059

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/lc0e5r/why_does_my_pc_run_so_bad_on_dx11/

[Electric Squall]

Robert の投稿を引用：

It's the lighting. Turning the lighting setting down and it disappears. I don't understand it, but that's what it is, at least on my end.. And no, it's not worth turning off to reduce the stutter. The game looks awful without the lighting. Another "fix" seems to be just using a controller, and ♥♥♥♥ all that. No offense if controllers are your thing. I'm not handicapping myself further. I don't claim to know all the answers, nor that this will work for every system, but on my machine both of these things eliminated the issue, and believe me, I tried EVERYTHING.

A great place to test this theory is near the end of the game when you're inside the mountain, the stutter is god awful; easily the worst place to experience it in the game, outside of towns of course. I've since completed the game, stutter fest and all, but best of luck to those of you still bashing your head against the wall over this issue, as I definitely feel your pain.

Not for AMD users, tried your workaround without success ... While on bike, AMD cards can't deliver a smooth experience.

[RodroG]

ElectricSquall の投稿を引用：

AMD does not work well, along with DX11.

You're right. I can understand your feeling. In terms of GPU driver optimization, AMD Radeon vs. NVIDIA GeForce using DX11 is like night and day. This is already well known. Even AMD acknowledged it. However, on DX12, the story is slightly different or even the other way around. Most DX12 games still perform smoother on Radeon GPUs.

That said, talking about the topic of this thread and as an RTX 3080 user and professional tech reviewer, you will probably still see via RTSS or CapFrameX tools occasional anomalous high frametime spikes while playing this game in certain game situations. It's a well-known and documented issue, and it isn't driver-related. Even so, I must admit that, currently, DG on PC is one of my favorite games, and it performs 98% of the time smooth as butter.

I'd say that our request about solving these issues (I also include here the speed/stutter issue reported by Digital Foundry) only wants the game's perfection. In fact, for me, this game scores a 9 out of 10, as it is.

[Electric Squall]

RodroG の投稿を引用：

ElectricSquall の投稿を引用：

AMD does not work well, along with DX11.

Even so, I must admit that, currently, DG on PC is one of my favorite games, and it performs 98% of the time smooth as butter.

I think I wasn't clear over my perspective. The point is, the game does have some moments (2%) of the time that yes, a MS can happen here or there, but the devs did a really great job optimizing it. The game is so much better now, compared to its release date.

My point is: With an AMD GPU, you don't have a smooth experience 98% of the time, far from it. The MS can be easily reproducible. Just ride the Bike or try to fight some horde, the game will ALWAYS stutters in theses situations and there will be no solution for this, since AMD will not improve DX11 experience.

Unfortunately, there will be some new titles releases using DX11, especially the console ported ones, so, its undeniable that AMD should change its approach regarding to this API.

[Jack Burton]

The oddest thing about this issue for me is that the game was smoother MONTHS ago..

I literally decided to replay it a few days back; & have been rooting through my system now for the past two days to figure out what changed.

Aside from driver updates from NVIDIA, & several game updates from the devs? Nothing.

But my game is a stuttery mess these days. They are tiny hitches to be certain, & not always there. But there often enough to hurt the eyes & make me stop my "head on a swivel mate.." gameplay style which keeps my hardcore characters alive.

Not worth playing like this.

[snavis]

Voidolt の投稿を引用：

This what happens if you buy Intel.

So sad while at the same time so clueless.

[phips10]

Only thing that works for me is to set all of the following ingame:

Framelimiter 60 fps
VSync on
Refresh Rate 60 Hz
Sync Interval 60

Without it it's nearly unplayable due to constant micro stutters using a 144 Hz monitor, gsync enabled, 1920 x 1080
Framegraph from MSI Afterburner/RTTS looks ok, but the stutters are clearly there, graphics settings (ultra vs lowest) do not change anything.

Tested on
i5-12600KF
Geforce RTX 3060 Ti
32 GB DDR5 5600 MHz

[AussiePatriot]

I haven't tested thoroughly, but I might have been able to brute force performance and all but eliminate the micro stutter after upgrading to an 13900k / 4090 / DDR5 set up.

With this hardware the stutters are so minute (tiny) they are not really bothersome anymore. I'm so anal about stutter in games so I mean what I say.

Can upload video evidence if wanted.

[Allonblack]

AussiePatriot の投稿を引用：

I haven't tested thoroughly, but I might have been able to brute force performance and all but eliminate the micro stutter after upgrading to an 13900k / 4090 / DDR5 set up.

With this hardware the stutters are so minute (tiny) they are not really bothersome anymore. I'm so anal about stutter in games so I mean what I say.

Can upload video evidence if wanted.

I've considered playing this game again, but I remembered just how bad that stuttering was. I too am stupidly sensitive to stuttering or any drops in frames. I'm running basically the exact same computer as you, save for a 4080 and not a 4090, so I might give it a go.

[AussiePatriot]

Allonblack の投稿を引用：

AussiePatriot の投稿を引用：

I haven't tested thoroughly, but I might have been able to brute force performance and all but eliminate the micro stutter after upgrading to an 13900k / 4090 / DDR5 set up.

With this hardware the stutters are so minute (tiny) they are not really bothersome anymore. I'm so anal about stutter in games so I mean what I say.

Can upload video evidence if wanted.

I've considered playing this game again, but I remembered just how bad that stuttering was. I too am stupidly sensitive to stuttering or any drops in frames. I'm running basically the exact same computer as you, save for a 4080 and not a 4090, so I might give it a go.

Yes mate report back and let me know how you go.

[macatak]

i didn't have any stutters or micro stutter but panning the camera wasn't always smooth like in other games

it seems to have mouse jitter like TLoU and Uncharted

switching to a controller makes it completely smooth

[Madnesis]

macatak の投稿を引用：

i didn't have any stutters or micro stutter but panning the camera wasn't always smooth like in other games

it seems to have mouse jitter like TLoU and Uncharted

switching to a controller makes it completely smooth

This, right here.

I had the same experience back then, I would switch to controller only while on the bike, no stutter when moving the camera around.

[Allonblack]

AussiePatriot の投稿を引用：

Allonblack の投稿を引用：

I've considered playing this game again, but I remembered just how bad that stuttering was. I too am stupidly sensitive to stuttering or any drops in frames. I'm running basically the exact same computer as you, save for a 4080 and not a 4090, so I might give it a go.

Yes mate report back and let me know how you go.

Reporting back. it's running completely flawless with everything maxed out at 4k. I did have to turn mouse smoothing on though. It's a bit juttery without it.