Library Of Ruina

Library Of Ruina

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Azukidere Jul 17, 2020 @ 10:17am
The grind is real (and I highkey hate it)
It takes wayyyyyyyy too long to get a page maxed out and it feels ridiculous when you constantly get new ones, so you need to be able to get them to their full potential quickly so you can play around with the content. And it really hurts when you just want a page for cosmetic reasons, since you won't even be using it..
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snek Jul 17, 2020 @ 10:37am 
Generally the quickest route I found to maxing pages is to spam the Shi Association fight over and over since they drop tons of high value books, putting an unlevelled page through fights is tricky since if they die their XP gain is way lower it looks like.
Good thing I just use workshop outfits for appearance projections, but I still think level 20 would be a good point for projection to be available.
CarThief Jul 17, 2020 @ 11:08am 
I dunno, the Puppet fight feels like it cashes out more books, granted, you do need to beat THREE waves of enemies with 3 teams of 4 librarians...

Ah well... Yeah it's way too grindy to get more options for Appearance Projection. They should've stuck with level 20 if you ask me, as the 20-30 gap requires like, probably way more experience then 1-20...
It is simply too much for a non-veteran player to catch up with.

Though when it comes to levelling pages for combat, it isn't THAT bad, they're reasonably useful from level 10-20 (whenever Speed unlocks) and you can do some easier fights with em for some XP.

It's just really sucky if you need to grind like well over FOURTY pages to level 30 to get a reasonable cosmetic Appearance Projection collection going.
snek Jul 17, 2020 @ 1:27pm 
You get a lot of Puppet books, but Shi Association has far more Limiteds and access to an Objet, both of which is where the huge xp is at. I also personally find it less of a pain than Puppets which just feels both a boring faceroll and a massive slog due to 3 floors with 5 pretty weak enemies each. Whereas Shi Association feels more fun since the tide can quite badly turn on you with a few bad rolls plus there's nothing wrong with more Shi cards.

Speed generally unlocks at about level 20 now I think, you could get away with doing both acts of Kurakumo or maybe Love Town though it might be fairly stressful with the latter, and deaths massively neuter your XP gains.
CarThief Jul 17, 2020 @ 1:50pm 
Well, suppose its preference, i'd rather slog through easily won enemies when grinding then sweating and worrying about if i'll actually win (since losing books is kind of a huge problem if they're annoying to regain, especially those godamn Musicians of Bremen's books).

And i may have miscounted, but i noticed a total of roughly 71 unique pages you can accuire for Appearance Projection. Seriously, 71 pages, grinded to level 30... That would take friggin' forever.

There's also about 16 (2 per floor, and we've unlocked 8 out of 10 floors) assistant and patron librarian pages, if you throw that into the pile we've got a grand total of 87 pages.

Although right now the latest patch rendered all library pages unusable for Appearance Projection, even the assistant ones, and patron librarians currently cannot use their own default appearance when having a key page equipped. (Hopefully that gets fixed...)
Adohk Jul 18, 2020 @ 9:22am 
The real grind is RNG masteries, atleast you can save the ones you want.
ingi Jul 18, 2020 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Azukidere:
It takes wayyyyyyyy too long to get a page maxed out and it feels ridiculous when you constantly get new ones, so you need to be able to get them to their full potential quickly so you can play around with the content. And it really hurts when you just want a page for cosmetic reasons, since you won't even be using it..

I agree nothing is as frustrating the grind pages you are not using or planning to use just to get the apprentice project. I could get it if you had used the pages to level it at least that would be an achievement of sort still be annoying toughed. But using other pages to level page of, just for cosmetics feels of really off.
Acds Jul 19, 2020 @ 7:39am 
1 puppet or decent Shi fight will net you enough books to bring a page to level 30 or close to. I can only see this being a grind if you're trying to outfit all your librarians on all floors, but why would you do that right now? No fight uses more than 2 floors (circus does but you'll barely need the second floor, let alone the third), and you can move key pages freely around different floors.
CarThief Jul 19, 2020 @ 11:26am 
Eh, the Puppet encounter is a 3-floor fight, atleast, if RNG hates you or if your setup is kinda bad. Otherwise it's generally 2 floors (rarely 1). Either way, that's still 8 people you'll want to look fashionable while they beat up rich guy meat-puppets.

And even if you don't use the floor much, why wouldn't you want them to look fasionable? Got a whole thing going on for my floors, heh...
A professional "suits" theme for Kether, Gerbura's all "cyber ninja", tried finding the classiest blue things for Chesed's floor, a "regal" theme for Tipereth, the ol' "nerd squad" for Malkuth and Hod (Hod's adorable in Dalloc's getup+ribbon+glasses), a "street gang" kinda theme for Netzach, and a Hotline Miami-esque setup for Yesod (why not, he rocks the purple suit).
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