Library Of Ruina

Library Of Ruina

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Starakira 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 4:18
English Translation of the Statement Made by Project Moon Regarding the Ending (Spoiler Warning)
Translated by Cool Kids Club
Link to the full translation : https://fusetter.com/tw/keoa0Lcw#all

Hello, this is Kim Jihoon, director of Project Moon. I have decided to write a response to the questions and errors people have given regarding the ending.

The following contains spoilers for both *Lobotomy Corporation* and *Library Of Ruina*, so please read with caution.


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1. Narrative Inconsistencies and the Removal of Certain Dialogue
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Zena: Subduing the Singularity was not our priority. If I had to elaborate, you, Angela, were the impurity that had to be cleansed.
Zena: The Singularity of manifesting the powers of the human mind and ideals physically?
Zena: Indeed, I won’t deny that said power needed to be attuned.
Zena: An art that brings the human mind into the physical realm is without a doubt an unpleasant idea. It was certain to be a subject of scorn.
Zena: Woe, we did not mind allowing it to foster.
Zena: It would eventually blend into the City in a fitting way, even though it may not be the most desirable for us to see. That’s how the City and its humans have always been.
Zena: On the other hand, the very concept of your design displeased us to the core.
Zena: Oh indeed. You were the definitive reason that caused us to make a direct move.
Zena: The sacrifices and tragedies that took place in that laboratory on the Outskirts were irrelevant. Those were not so different to the everyday occasions of the City.
Zena: With what we had a problem was the design that would lead to your creation. We could not overlook it, even if it was still in a conceptual stage.
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--> We [Project Moon] acknowledge that these lines of dialogue contained errors. This is wholly my mistake and a failure on my part. I have no words to excuse myself. We originally intended to mention the process of Angela's creation which involved several Wings and organizations, but most of that depiction was omitted and jumps were made, which led to the aforementioned errors.


2. Where is the Realization of the Floor of General Works?

--> The battle against Roland [The Black Silence] is considered the battle for the realization.


3. Regarding Inconclusive Plot Points

* Concerning our statements from past Q&A sessions

--> As Lisa (Tiphereth A) is one of the youngest characters in the games, we decided to leave out any depictions of her death as we considered that it may be excessive. Lisa had passed away when the Arbiter [Garion] assaulted the laboratory.

--> The way the plot progressed did not leave us room for elaboration on the mechanisms of the execution bullets.

--> As for "moving on from L Corp's story", we meant that the Sephirot and Angela will not be featured as main characters in future titles. The pillar of Light featured throughout *Lobotomy Corporation* and *Library Of Ruina* will continue to play a pivotal role.

--> We rashly replied with statements such as "Please look forward to the sequel" in response to some questions whose answers might spoil our upcoming stories during past Q&A sessions. We're sorry to have disappointed you with the lack of actual answers. In the future, we will clearly state that we cannot give an answer if we're faced with similar inquiries.


* Concerning the "voice"

--> We have decided to leave it [i.e. what it is] unresolved, as there is still much to be told about Distortions and Abnormalities.


4. Regarding the Ending's Intentions

- We thought that the emphasis of the conclusion was placed on the choices Angela and Roland would make throughout their growth. In retrospect, we should have restructured it so that the ending plays out after the final confrontation with the Reverberation Ensemble, saving the Head's intervention for the epilogue.


- We acknowledge that the [post-credits] conversation involving the Purple Tear was an unnecessary addition. The reason the Purple Tear brought up money was to persuade the Association. We apologize for the lacking depictions that made you feel disappointed with the character.




We are once again deeply sorry to have disappointed all the people who have loved the world and settings we've built.

We cannot overstate how ashamed and regretful we are for failing to deliver on the ending, a vital part of the experience of enjoying a game.

We will strive to reflect on this occurrence and improve.

Thank you.
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Hoopla 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 10:55 
I can understand apologizing for stuff like the employees who got execution bullet'ed and Lisa's death as if it was some important plot point, and then it wasn't really, but why the hell are they apologizing for the Zena dialogue and purple tear's? were people legitimately having a hard time understanding the intent behind it? It feels like only people who can't freaking understand the story complained about it, especially purple tear who we obviously know for a long while wanted to see her son again and possibly bring him back, so why the hell would she focus on the money making and not just people assume she is trying to make Hana see the benefits of opening up the new association?

snek 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 10:55 
引用自 【Silver】
Same, there's a huge concern when development gets backtracked in such a way out of panic or threats from a vocal minority. I personally enjoyed the lack of info involved with the scene of Hana and Iori, it left a lot to be speculated upon. The credits roll also felt much more fitting being after the library essentially getting yeeted out of the city too, made it feel suitably heartwarming. Even with the conflict with Zena and Baral being the way it was, I was still really excited and enjoyed all the touches it had (I really hope their cards have proper artwork now though).

All in all, I still have questions left unanswered like others, but I wasn't expecting perfection either. I was pretty satisfied with what they provided and was more than welcoming for more in the future. Like yeah, what did they do with the T Corp box? Could we perhaps have gotten EGO and realization pages after Roland's fight, especially now if they make the final encounter into an actual fight somehow or for players who enjoy playing at post-completion? Were we not getting more symbols or general receptions or is tat something happening after this update?

Like this is a digitally produced title, changes can be made if the devs see fit to do so, there's no need to threaten them or other pathetically crappy stunts for it. Am glad I was able to at least see the originally made ending myself at least...
I think we could've had Roland's 5th and EGO from beating his fight if only for any sort of future bonus content that might get made.
T Corp box they elaborated on in their QnA, blue crew didn't steal the energy, merely the loss of passengers due to the Library taking them is what resulted in that. This lured the W Corp employees in that then leads to the rest of that branch..

Considering there's a few more updates apparently planned regardless, I think we will get more general receptions and hopefully symbols too.

引用自 Hoopla
I can understand apologizing for stuff like the employees who got execution bullet'ed and Lisa's death as if it was some important plot point, and then it wasn't really, but why the hell are they apologizing for the Zena dialogue and purple tear's? were people legitimately having a hard time understanding the intent behind it? It feels like only people who can't freaking understand the story complained about it, especially purple tear who we obviously know for a long while wanted to see her son again and possibly bring him back, so why the hell would she focus on the money making and not just people assume she is trying to make Hana see the benefits of opening up the new association?
The Zena dialogue unintentionally omitted an extremely critical detail regarding the lab raid: Angela's creation was a large collaboration between multiple Wings and Associations, this wasn't just an AI being made, this was basically what would look like an outright conspiracy against the head.
PT dialogue was pretty weird and in general uninteresting and stilted, I'm sure it would've been fine if it had gone through some rewording rather than the shredder. But some people seem to take it as "please buy the next game haha" for some reason.
最後修改者:snek; 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 10:58
Hoopla 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:02 
引用自 snek
PT dialogue was pretty weird and in general uninteresting and stilted, I'm sure it would've been fine if it had gone through some rewording rather than the shredder. But some people seem to take it as "please buy the next game haha" for some reason.
That's why I think it's dumb. The people complaining probably didn't pay attention to her freaking cutscenes and her book information if they seriously had doubts about it, and how she is obviously pushing things along to get what she wants. If they took it personally, it was just a retarded knee jerk reaction from people who feel personally attacked for no reason.

As for the Zena dialogue, was that an omission due to a translation mistake, or were they "forced" to add the line there? cause to me, just the fact that the head is neurotic enough to send a death squad to a lab, that is still planning to create an A.I gives him some pretty interesting characterization in relation to their rule adherence, and zero tolerance against anything that goes against their plans. Why would it need to be a conspiracy for it to make sense?
最後修改者:Hoopla; 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:06
snek 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:08 
引用自 Hoopla
引用自 snek
PT dialogue was pretty weird and in general uninteresting and stilted, I'm sure it would've been fine if it had gone through some rewording rather than the shredder. But some people seem to take it as "please buy the next game haha" for some reason.
That's why I think it's dumb. The people complaining probably didn't pay attention to her freaking cutscenes and her book information if they seriously had doubts about it, and how she is obviously pushing things along to get what she wants. If they took it personally, it was just a retarded knee jerk reaction from people who feel personally attacked for no reason.

As for the Zana dialogue, was that an omission due to a translation mistake, or were they "forced" to add the line there? cause to me, just the fact that the head is neurotic enough to send a death squad to a lab, that is still planning to create an A.I gives him some pretty interesting characterization in relation to their rule adherence, and zero tolerance against anything that goes against their plans. Why would it need to be a conspiracy for it to make sense?
I think the lines got omitted out of a rush to get the update out on time. This line is *very* crucial because otherwise it displays the head burning down a lab for even daring to conceptualise a lab, yet they're perfectly content with just kicking the Library out into the Outskirts despite being ran by a machine (instead of just bombing the place to the ground, like they're perfectly capable of warping the equivalent of a tectonic plate (Wing sections are EXTREMELY large) all at once). It makes it look extremely odd for such a merciless faction.

Indicating that there was a major conspiracy ran by multiple very large groups makes the fact that Garion essentially torched a Wing beforehand and then torched the lab making complete sense, it's setting an example to not pull funny ideas on the Head.
Hoopla 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:13 
引用自 snek
yet they're perfectly content with just kicking the Library out into the Outskirts despite being ran by a machine
I think that was just their own overconfidence playing a part. Much like Binah, they are more than enough to kill everyone inside, they had just thought they'd be able to do it before the teleportation process kicked in. Binah said so "verbosity truly leaves you vulnerable". Basically they got cocky, and thought they'd be able to murder them before it happened. Outskirts it outside of their playing field so they don't care so long as she steps inside of the city again.
Teleporting the wing out was probably due to how everything related to it by that point was a blemish like she said, so they'd rather take anything associated with it out of the head's sight.

As for the extra dialogue on Zena, that might not have been there intentionally, to not explain too much on the why of things and leave it as a surprise for the future.
最後修改者:Hoopla; 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:16
snek 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:22 
引用自 Hoopla
引用自 snek
yet they're perfectly content with just kicking the Library out into the Outskirts despite being ran by a machine
I think that was just their own overconfidence playing a part. Much like Binah, they are more than enough to kill everyone inside, they had just thought they'd be able to do it before the teleportation process kicked in. Binah said so "verbosity truly leaves you vulnerable". Basically they got cocky, and thought they'd be able to murder them before it happened. Outskirts it outside of their playing field so they don't care so long as she steps inside of the city again.
Teleporting the wing out was probably due to how everything related to it by that point was a blemish like she said, so they'd rather take anything associated with it out of the head's sight.
I mean, they also walked in with less firepower for the Library compared to the lab (1 Claw vs 2 Claws, though I'm not sure if Bharal's title makes him a higher enforcer compared to typical claws) when they know there's two Colours (Roland tired, but Geb clearly very prepared considering what she enters with) and a degraded Arbiter inside. That's far more firepower than what the lab had (Red Mist at her peak). If they were that hellbent on destroying the lab just because it was planning Angela, why didn't they just level the Library and then warp out the L Corp Nest?

There's overconfidence (which Zena and Bharal were blatantly full of) and then there's going against your previous actions as a group to the point it makes little sense. Zena was quite clearly spooked with Geb and also Binah entering since they expected to just toy with Roland and that's it, Geb getting chained and Roland getting grabbed is them now fighting for real (and it gets interrupted because Zena is still bragging). They then also flee the very turn Gebura could actually unleash her RM mode EGO (which I actually managed to do).
Hoopla 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:32 
引用自 snek
I mean, they also walked in with less firepower for the Library compared to the lab (1 Claw vs 2 Claws, though I'm not sure if Bharal's title makes him a higher enforcer compared to typical claws) when they know there's two Colours (Roland tired, but Geb clearly very prepared considering what she enters with) and a degraded Arbiter inside. That's far more firepower than what the lab had (Red Mist at her peak). If they were that hellbent on destroying the lab just because it was planning Angela, why didn't they just level the Library and then warp out the L Corp Nest?

There's overconfidence (which Zena and Bharal were blatantly full of) and then there's going against your previous actions as a group to the point it makes little sense. Zena was quite clearly spooked with Geb and also Binah entering since they expected to just toy with Roland and that's it, Geb getting chained and Roland getting grabbed is them now fighting for real (and it gets interrupted because Zena is still bragging). They then also flee the very turn Gebura could actually unleash her RM mode EGO (which I actually managed to do).
Because the arbiters are usually more than enough, and the claws as well. They didn't expect such fierce opposition, and they didn't know about EGO. They now know, Zena even knows the library is Angela's EGO. Notice how Binah has a much easier time handling Gebura in the post LC ending, compared to when she assaulted the place, and Gebura lost an arm and was near dead. By this point she understand what EGO is and how it works.
And yeah, Bharal is claerly way more tough compared to a regular claw, the other two don't wear his same attire, and he has a few distinguishing features. At the end of the day, the problem is still their ego giving them over confidence, and unlike Binah, Zena wasn't gonna play around and sadistically tease her rival allowing them a chance to butcher her.

Also she was only surprised when Binah refused to return, Gebura was 100% expected, since she told the claw to halt, and knew she was coming.
snek 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:41 
引用自 Hoopla
引用自 snek
I mean, they also walked in with less firepower for the Library compared to the lab (1 Claw vs 2 Claws, though I'm not sure if Bharal's title makes him a higher enforcer compared to typical claws) when they know there's two Colours (Roland tired, but Geb clearly very prepared considering what she enters with) and a degraded Arbiter inside. That's far more firepower than what the lab had (Red Mist at her peak). If they were that hellbent on destroying the lab just because it was planning Angela, why didn't they just level the Library and then warp out the L Corp Nest?

There's overconfidence (which Zena and Bharal were blatantly full of) and then there's going against your previous actions as a group to the point it makes little sense. Zena was quite clearly spooked with Geb and also Binah entering since they expected to just toy with Roland and that's it, Geb getting chained and Roland getting grabbed is them now fighting for real (and it gets interrupted because Zena is still bragging). They then also flee the very turn Gebura could actually unleash her RM mode EGO (which I actually managed to do).
Because the arbiters are usually more than enough, and the claws as well. They didn't expect such fierce opposition, and they didn't know about EGO. They now know, Zena even knows the library is Angela's EGO. Notice how Binah has a much easier time handling Gebura in the post LC ending, compared to when she assaulted the place, and Gebura lost an arm and was near dead. By this point she understand what EGO is and how it works.
And yeah, Bharal is claerly way more tough compared to a regular claw, the other two don't wear his same attire, and he has a few distinguishing features. At the end of the day, the problem is still their ego giving them over confidence, and unlike Binah, Zena wasn't gonna play around and sadistically tease her rival allowing them a chance to butcher her.

Also she was only surprised when Binah refused to return, Gebura was 100% expected, since she told the claw to halt, and knew she was coming.
>Zena wasn't gonna play around
I mean, that's what she was doing until Geb showed up, and by then it was too late and Binah showed up to make things even more of a mess for them. I think thematically if they didn't have the means of warping out (which they do at the very moment Geb can enter RM mode) they would've risked actually dying all because they were too overconfident at the start.
If they knew that they were going to walk into what is essentially a hornets nest where there are two Colours (one of which is known to be THE strongest Colour) and a former Arbiter you'd think they would've walked in more prepared.
Hoopla 2021 年 4 月 17 日 上午 11:50 
引用自 snek
>Zena wasn't gonna play around
I mean, that's what she was doing until Geb showed up, and by then it was too late and Binah showed up to make things even more of a mess for them. I think thematically if they didn't have the means of warping out (which they do at the very moment Geb can enter RM mode) they would've risked actually dying all because they were too overconfident at the start.
If they knew that they were going to walk into what is essentially a hornets nest where there are two Colours (one of which is known to be THE strongest Colour) and a former Arbiter you'd think they would've walked in more prepared.
Well yeah, cause they would have killed her on time still, Binah showing up was outside of her expectation, most likely because the Garion she remembers a was sadistic person who lived for her own sake, and not someone who'd jump into the line of fire to help others, especially against former co-workers, or potentially family assuming Zena has some relation to her. If the fight had continued they would have lost, I mean, the claw can deflect Vertical split, even if it wins and then still uses his own attack afterwards.
Flygoniaks 2021 年 4 月 17 日 下午 12:26 
I personally really liked the ending, but I can understand why it didn't meet some people's expectations. However, every writer makes mistakes now and then. It's best to forgive those mistakes and give feedback politely, so they can use that feedback to improve in the future!
Riime 2021 年 4 月 17 日 下午 12:44 
I'm incredibly disappointed Angela and the Sephirot won't be main characters anymore but even so, it's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up people felt they needed to make PM apologize let alone send threats to them
Alpha Chad 2021 年 4 月 17 日 下午 12:51 
i liked the post-credit scene with purple tear, man if marvel can do it, surely PM can too
AritheReaper 2021 年 4 月 17 日 下午 1:09 
引用自 Malkute
I'm incredibly disappointed Angela and the Sephirot won't be main characters anymore but even so, it's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up people felt they needed to make PM apologize let alone send threats to them
I mean, they just won't be the main characters in the next game, not in general.
Sebee 2021 年 4 月 17 日 下午 7:42 
引用自 Malkute
I'm incredibly disappointed Angela and the Sephirot won't be main characters anymore but even so, it's so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up people felt they needed to make PM apologize let alone send threats to them
It's not like they'll disappear completely from the plot and just fall off the face of the world.
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