Where to get mods and which ones are recommended?

[Healingnoises]

Are all the good ones on say Nexus? Or is the workshop here just fine?
And I assume most reception mods will be intended for those who finished the game?

[Starakira]

For this game don't use the mods on Nexus. A lot of them are outdated. Just use the ones on the Workshop. Also for the second question, yes most of the reception mods are SotC level and above.

[Healingnoises]

Originally posted by Starakira:

For this game don't use the mods on Nexus. A lot of them are outdated. Just use the ones on the Workshop. Also for the second question, yes most of the reception mods are SotC level and above.

Nice, time to sort by most popular of all time and get to it. Thanks!

[Dice_24K]

Check out the Workshop here on Steam, not Nexus mods. A gentle reminder that the mods are fan-made content, so don't expect all of them to be entirely fair and balanced - nor are any of them canonical.
Also, be wary of spoilers from other games. Safe to say some mods use content from other games and they can contain spoilers.

There are plenty of amazing mods in the "most subscribed list" and if you got some skins you're happy with and don't want to see them anymore, hit the minus button on the right for "Skins." Doing that will keep Invitation mods and QoL mods.
A lot of mods have the available language on them, usually "KR/JP/EN/CN" so be aware if your language isn't on there.

I'm sure you got a lot of mods to go through just by looking at the top list, so here are some mods that are not receptions (or skins).
QoL stuff:

NoGrind
Speed Dice Color
Enhanced Combat Page View
Targetable Mass Attacks
BongSearch
Better Filters
Better Token Preview
Localization Manager
Display Overflow Abnormality Pages

Cheat Mods:

The Epic Pack (not the Epic Battle Fantasy mods)
Re-Extraction mod
Counter Dice Retain (the Ally-only one specifically can be hilarious)
Playable Bosses
Debug Console Activate Mod (where you can just type "win")
Infinite Cards Passive ALT,
UnlimitedPassives
Free Passives (No Basemod) <- note: you gotta keep the bottom 6 passive slots empty or it'll brick for some reason. Only use it if you wanna cheat through mods that won't let you use Basemod.
and Stupid Passives V2.0 - especially if you have one of the two previous mods
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892144726


I like these "out of the way" mods, as in they're not easy to find under "most subscribed."
Cobra and Papilio
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2942671124
Touhou Project
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2809259571
and finally this Roguelike mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2782361522

You don't have to enable every single mod at once. I kinda recommend uninstalling mods you're done with unless you want to play using the key pages (or passives). Some combinations absolutely destroy the game. Enjoy!

And if you're OP OP OP OP and want something to flex on AND you want a challenge at the same time, there's "The Devourer of God" and "Jealous Flower." Good luck on that second one though.

There are a lot more mods than just the ones I've listed, so take your time.

[Star/AntianSlider]

I suggest looking at the user UnitDragon's profile and checking under favorites for Ruina mods, and also I suggest staying far away from Cobra and Papilio if you have any sanity

[ReadYoshi]

Most of the good mods are on Workshop.
A couple generic mods I'd recommend:

- Angels of Ruina is a classic, can't go wrong with dodge pages (it's one of the first ones you'll see on the mods list
- Jessica of Blacksteel (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901995696), it's a short little general reception that also pairs with dodge pages absurdly well along with being a smoke page
- Faust from Limbus Company (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2822106183), it's great for difficult receptions solo such as DIstorted Ensemble

For the Touhou mod Dice suggested, I'm fairly certain that it's near to almost impossible unmodded (coming from someone who used mods to beat them), so you might wanna stock up on extra modded pages before you attempt it.

[Dice_24K]

Originally posted by Pluto/AntianSlider:

I suggest looking at the user UnitDragon's profile and checking under favorites for Ruina mods, and also I suggest staying far away from Cobra and Papilio if you have any sanity

And... why is that? If you're complaining about the fight against Roland, someone did complain about that in the comments and it got nerfed. Otherwise, it is actually a lot of fun.

Originally posted by ReadYoshi:

Most of the good mods are on Workshop.
A couple generic mods I'd recommend:

- Angels of Ruina is a classic, can't go wrong with dodge pages (it's one of the first ones you'll see on the mods list
- Jessica of Blacksteel (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901995696), it's a short little general reception that also pairs with dodge pages absurdly well along with being a smoke page
- Faust from Limbus Company (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2822106183), it's great for difficult receptions solo such as DIstorted Ensemble

For the Touhou mod Dice suggested, I'm fairly certain that it's near to almost impossible unmodded (coming from someone who used mods to beat them), so you might wanna stock up on extra modded pages before you attempt it.

Yeah, I tried to avoid pointing out anything that's immediately visible under the most popular list, but yeah, Angels of Ruina is a top tier mod.
If you're gonna grab Faust, you should certainly grab all the Limbus character mods. By my experience, Heathcliff is straight up the most powerful one and Outis matches him. I'mma avoid further spoilers here.

As for Touhou, yeah, they're strong. That's kinda the point as you keep playing modded content. Like... lemme get this straight, do you only wanna play vanilla stuff to challenge mods? You never wanna modded key pages and combat pages? If so, then uh... I don't get you. That kinda kills about half the fun in the game: getting new key and combat pages and building them.

[Healingnoises]

Originally posted by Dice_24K:

Originally posted by Pluto/AntianSlider:

I suggest looking at the user UnitDragon's profile and checking under favorites for Ruina mods, and also I suggest staying far away from Cobra and Papilio if you have any sanity

And... why is that? If you're complaining about the fight against Roland, someone did complain about that in the comments and it got nerfed. Otherwise, it is actually a lot of fun.

Originally posted by ReadYoshi:

Most of the good mods are on Workshop.
A couple generic mods I'd recommend:

- Angels of Ruina is a classic, can't go wrong with dodge pages (it's one of the first ones you'll see on the mods list
- Jessica of Blacksteel (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2901995696), it's a short little general reception that also pairs with dodge pages absurdly well along with being a smoke page
- Faust from Limbus Company (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2822106183), it's great for difficult receptions solo such as DIstorted Ensemble

For the Touhou mod Dice suggested, I'm fairly certain that it's near to almost impossible unmodded (coming from someone who used mods to beat them), so you might wanna stock up on extra modded pages before you attempt it.

Yeah, I tried to avoid pointing out anything that's immediately visible under the most popular list, but yeah, Angels of Ruina is a top tier mod.
If you're gonna grab Faust, you should certainly grab all the Limbus character mods. By my experience, Heathcliff is straight up the most powerful one and Outis matches him. I'mma avoid further spoilers here.

As for Touhou, yeah, they're strong. That's kinda the point as you keep playing modded content. Like... lemme get this straight, do you only wanna play vanilla stuff to challenge mods? You never wanna modded key pages and combat pages? If so, then uh... I don't get you. That kinda kills about half the fun in the game: getting new key and combat pages and building them. :Hatfall_Frown:

Damn right I want to use new pages as I challenge higher foes. Just have to figure out the tiers of difficulty, which mods are the clear end end game that I need modded pages for, so devourer, jealous flower, Touhou I get that. Which ones are just plain hard, and which ones are only slightly harder than vanilla. Because while I assume the modders of our fan base all generally agree on wanting some kinda cracked difficulty, their idea of crack may vary a bit from each other.

[Dice_24K]

Well, you can start with the Limbus characters, several of the most popular mods and work your way up from there.


Also, if I had to rate "waaaaaaay too much power power power power" on a scale of 1 to 10:

Touhou is like a 2 or 3
Devourer is around a 5 or 6
and Jealous Flower is like a 12.

In fact, even if you cheat through the roof, you'll probably get wrecked thoroughly by Jealous Flower. Don't ask me how I beat it twice.

[Healingnoises]

Originally posted by Dice_24K:

Well, you can start with the Limbus characters, several of the most popular mods and work your way up from there.


Also, if I had to rate "waaaaaaay too much power power power power" on a scale of 1 to 10:

Touhou is like a 2 or 3
Devourer is around a 5 or 6
and Jealous Flower is like a 12.

In fact, even if you cheat through the roof, you'll probably get wrecked thoroughly by Jealous Flower. Don't ask me how I beat it twice. :leaSmug:

Okay, and most other receptions and the power of their pages, ignoring busted passive combinations, are a 1 then? and vanilla is 0.



Also just curious, which Arbiter mod would be somewhat usable against mods? There are quite a few, I just love the aesthetic too much.

[ReadYoshi]

Originally posted by Healingnoises #savetf2:

Okay, and most other receptions and the power of their pages, ignoring busted passive combinations, are a 1 then? and vanilla is 0.



Also just curious, which Arbiter mod would be somewhat usable against mods? There are quite a few, I just love the aesthetic too much.

E.G.O. Myo would probably be a 4 if used correctly (granted, her fight is mildly trivialized by The Strongest plus normal Myo's Prowess on Yesod, but after getting her keypage she's still stupidly strong), and there are probably others that can score higher than that (I think Faust could even score a 4+ on Dice's scale due to her passive being broken and being able to trivialize some things that should never be trivialized).

Not all mods score 1s, team comps are everything and the main power source of modded teams comes from combining mods that should never be combined (take, for example, Angels of Ruina's Yishan plus Jessica of Blacksteel, giving me the potential to get solid 16+ evade rolls). These are both SotC (not even Impuritas) receptions and are fairly easy to do. Even the weaker mods have a use and aren't just simple 1s.

Personally, haven't tried any of the Arbiter mods, but general rule of thumb from what I've seen from modded pages are that if they don't have any form of "don't die before death" or "big damage"/"cancel die", they will probably get folded. I think most Arbiter mods should hold up okay until maybe Devourer of Gods, but don't take my word for it (haven't tried DoG yet either).

(Note: Watching replays for Devourer and for some reason, it feels a lot weaker. You can probably cheese this fight easily with counter die. Or maybe I'm blind and the playthroughs are using broken pages, which they probably are.)

Vanilla is definitely a 0 except for maybe Red Mist, BInah, possibly Impuritas pages, and Black Silence, but you can probably see why.

[ReadYoshi]

Originally posted by Dice_24K:

Check out the Workshop here on Steam, not
and finally this Roguelike mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2782361522

This mod doesn't work with Basemod for some reason (+ it doesn't work with Angels of Ruina), so you might want to be aware of that. It's a good mod from what I've seen, just don't expect any modded pages and remember not to accidentally delete all of your modded pages and progress.

[ReadYoshi]

Originally posted by Healingnoises #savetf2:

Damn right I want to use new pages as I challenge higher foes. Just have to figure out the tiers of difficulty, which mods are the clear end end game that I need modded pages for, so devourer, jealous flower, Touhou I get that. Which ones are just plain hard, and which ones are only slightly harder than vanilla. Because while I assume the modders of our fan base all generally agree on wanting some kinda cracked difficulty, their idea of crack may vary a bit from each other.

Angels is a bit harder than vanilla (at least part 1-2 is), most SotC general receptions are vanilla, and I might tentatively say that every mod is basically vanilla if you consider Netzach's stalling plan. Except Bookhunter. Bookhunter's seen it all.

Coming from my modlist, here are the ones that I think are vanilla doable:
- Angels, at least the first part
- SotC General Receptions (Tia, Reed (Loughshinny), Jessica, theoretically Surtr, you get the drill)
- Ender Lilies doesn't use your own pages, so it's technically vanilla-difficulty
- A majority of the Limbus Company mods (not sure about Heathcliff. He's annoying.)
- Babamalk
- MAYBE E.G.O. Myo. I dunno. Don't quote me.

If you want to talk progression in terms of mods, go general receptions (the ACTUAL general receptions, not the Memory of Sorrow that shows up...), then Angels, then your assortment of Offices along with Touhou.

(Angels is just a useful mod, once you use it you'll never leave. Dodge dice just get buffed through the roof in a good way for you and for the Heralds.)

[ReadYoshi]

Sorry for the spam of comments, I promise this is the last one.

Be prepared to wait over 10+ minutes for all of your mods to load.

I'm dead serious. I've had a computer crash and hours of lost time waiting for mods to load. Have fun digging deeper into the modded hole, as your computer will NOT handle it.

[Healingnoises]

Originally posted by ReadYoshi:

Sorry for the spam of comments, I promise this is the last one.

Be prepared to wait over 10+ minutes for all of your mods to load.

I'm dead serious. I've had a computer crash and hours of lost time waiting for mods to load. Have fun digging deeper into the modded hole, as your computer will NOT handle it.

Last question. Should I have all these mods loaded at the same time? I assume not because some may take the same slot on the invitation tree. But if so do they all let you keep the key and combat pages after uninstalling the mod?

[Dice_24K]

If your computer can load up all the mods at once, then go for it. Personally, I used to do that but nowadays, any mods I don't intend to use get uninstalled.
So my active mod list is the QoL mods + the mods I wanna use (like the key + combat pages and passives) + the new mods I want to play.

The whole "wait 10+ minutes" is a bit of a meme to me because I wait at the most 2 minutes. I don't have "top of the line computer" but I certainly don't have a potato and people with potatoes might be experiencing super long loading times. The more mods you have, you the longer the load time, naturally.

Also, I made up that scale of 1 to 10 on a whim to make a point as to how absurd Jealous Flower is. I didn't intend to make some sort of "now we measures all mods by this!" Imagine grabbing some new mods, getting stronger -> then going into Jealous Flower without having any idea.
The "clueless" meme would've hit you hard.