Library Of Ruina

Library Of Ruina

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Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 3:33am
Tiphereth's last battle
Playing for about 20 minutes to end up with useless heroes that can't do anything with any boss card is very cool (no). The main card AOE attack should not stun, it makes no sense.
This is a very bad boss design, even worse than the fiery woman, who turns off all buffs every second turn, but at the same time continues to roll the maximum numbers on the dice.

Seriously, I get a hero with one 5-10 damage card in their deck when the boss uses a 10-12 AoE attack every second or third turn. And the other hero has three cards in his hand, where the best first die is 3-8. As a result, my squad, which received about ... 0 damage all the time, turned out to be completely unprepared, because you must know in advance that you need cards with a minimum damage of 15 units, otherwise you risk losing on the very first turn of the boss. But it turned out that all you need to do is listen to the game unquestioningly and in no case let go of the developer's hand. If you recall the previous fights, then the developer leads you by the hand all the time.

My main mistake was that I overestimated the boss and his creators. All the bosses in this game are dumb, remember that. If it seems to you that there is some special meaning in the battle or you try to think outside the box, then the game will immediately punish you. So if the game tells you to kill your heroes, then remember, this is not a request, this is an order.

But the main problem is that there is no boss, it's just a sponge for bullets. The developer created the illusion of a real battle, and many people believed in it. Unfortunately, the developer decided that the duration of the battle is the key to a good fight. Good fights, as the developer believes, cannot end quickly, which means that the player is waiting for a huge number of enemies, whose feature is a huge hp pool and nothing more.
The next floor final boss heals if the player deals less than 80 damage in a single turn. That's all he can. But if such an original boss did not impress you, then in the comments you will definitely find people proving that this is another ingenious mechanic!
But in reality, it shows that the developers have run out of ideas.
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Boy Impregnator Jan 9, 2023 @ 3:52am 
You know that Nihil has his phases that are corresponding to your every each magical girls that should fight him in her Nihil's phase and the others should support her, right?
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Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:02am 
Originally posted by Shizoid:
You know that Nihil has his phases that are corresponding to your every each magical girls that should fight him in her Nihil's phase and the others should support her, right?
How should I know when I first saw this boss? Each boss had 9000 words about their phases and abilities, but this particular boss has only a few lines in the description of his abilities.
Last edited by Hidebehind; Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:04am
Boy Impregnator Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:08am 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
Originally posted by Shizoid:
You know that Nihil has his phases that are corresponding to your every each magical girls that should fight him in her Nihil's phase and the others should support her, right?
How should I know when I first saw this boss? Each boss had 9000 words about their phases and abilities, but this particular boss has only a few lines in the description of his abilities.
Don't be lazy and read it all, or don't cry that the boss is impossible just because you did not read about it. All this phase-thing is well described in his passives.
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Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by Shizoid:
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
How should I know when I first saw this boss? Each boss had 9000 words about their phases and abilities, but this particular boss has only a few lines in the description of his abilities.
Don't be lazy and read it all, or don't cry that the boss is impossible just because you did not read about it. All this phase-thing is well described in his passives.
I went to the boss, broke two statues and got a debuff of all dice, after that the fight was officially over. And I also got a card in my hand, whose description says: increases the power of the dice if the boss attacks the hero or something like that. So, even by activating three of these cards, all the magical girls lost every battle! The AOE card destroys all magical girls except for the rhinoceros, since he has a 12-25 card. Apparently I didn't open that one girl or I god knows what the game wanted, giving me literally one try.
It's funny when people try to justify stupid design. Tell me, why do we need other battles if their outcome does not affect the final battle in any way?

If the fight started right away, then I would have no questions, but I need to go to him, defeating the most miserable anomalies that are not capable of inflicting even a unit of damage, but the final guy ends the fight with one card. The whole "difficulty" of this boss lies in the fact that it imposes a strong debuff, if it weren't, then it would be the most mediocre and easy boss in the game. Praising a boss whose "difficulty" is constantly debuffing dice is idiotic. The first fight with the wolf has a much more interesting idea than a huge dice debuff.
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Boy Impregnator Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:26am 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
Originally posted by Shizoid:
Don't be lazy and read it all, or don't cry that the boss is impossible just because you did not read about it. All this phase-thing is well described in his passives.
I went to the boss, broke two statues and got a debuff of all bones, after that the fight was officially over. And I also got a card in my hand, whose description says: increases the power of the dice if the boss attacks the hero or something like that. So, even by activating three of these cards, all the magical girls lost every battle! The AOE card destroys all magical girls except for the rhinoceros, since he has a 12-25 card. Apparently I didn't open that one girl or I god knows what the game wanted, giving me literally one try.
It's funny when people try to justify stupid design. Tell me, why do we need other battles if their outcome does not affect the final battle in any way?
You are supposed to destroy all of the statues even by characters that broke them and got updated by new pages. The gold pages are amplyfiyng that one magical girl that the Nihil's phase is about and only her. Even being debuffed you are required to make just a single hit on a statue to break it, you just can ignore his first scene mass attack and go for the statues. That is not a stupid design, it's just you who are afraid to read some letters but instead like to try rush the boss, get obviously obliterated and then go cry that the boss is stupid and unbeatable. I will say futhermore, this boss battle is actually one of the easiest one's in the whole game.

P.S. You are not rushed to hit space button to iniate the fight, you can take all the time you need to read and understand the boss.
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Boy Impregnator Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:39am 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
If the fight started right away, then I would have no questions, but I need to go to him, defeating the most miserable anomalies that are not capable of inflicting even a unit of damage, but the final guy ends the fight with one card. The whole "difficulty" of this boss lies in the fact that it imposes a strong debuff, if it weren't, then it would be the most mediocre and easy boss in the game. Praising a boss whose "difficulty" is constantly debuffing dice is idiotic. The first fight with the wolf has a much more interesting idea than a huge dice debuff.

And yes, you quessed it right. Boss gives you the debuff only if you don't break the statues, so there actually is no debuff for you. Again, Nihil is the easiest one because you are given TOO powerful pages by breaking those.
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Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Shizoid:
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
If the fight started right away, then I would have no questions, but I need to go to him, defeating the most miserable anomalies that are not capable of inflicting even a unit of damage, but the final guy ends the fight with one card. The whole "difficulty" of this boss lies in the fact that it imposes a strong debuff, if it weren't, then it would be the most mediocre and easy boss in the game. Praising a boss whose "difficulty" is constantly debuffing dice is idiotic. The first fight with the wolf has a much more interesting idea than a huge dice debuff.

And yes, you quessed it right. Boss gives you the debuff only if you don't break the statues, so there actually is no debuff for you. Again, Nihil is the easiest one because you are given TOO powerful pages by breaking those.
There is a debuff, since there is a fifth hero, but there are only 4 statues. Apparently the right girl remained in that single unbroken statue.
I almost got to that scum again. Local anomalies are so weak that they lose the auto-battle, this speeded up the process at least. In any case, I hope I don't win now or in the next couple of attempts because this will only prove how stupid the design of the boss is.
Boy Impregnator Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:54am 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
Originally posted by Shizoid:

And yes, you quessed it right. Boss gives you the debuff only if you don't break the statues, so there actually is no debuff for you. Again, Nihil is the easiest one because you are given TOO powerful pages by breaking those.
There is a debuff, since there is a fifth hero, but there are only 4 statues. Apparently the right girl remained in that single unbroken statue.
I almost got to that scum again. Local anomalies are so weak that they lose the auto-battle, this speeded up the process at least. In any case, I hope I don't win now or in the next couple of attempts because this will only prove how stupid the design of the boss is.
You don't need the 5th nugget so don't care about him/her. Read Nihil's passives and then your's too.
Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Shizoid:
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
There is a debuff, since there is a fifth hero, but there are only 4 statues. Apparently the right girl remained in that single unbroken statue.
I almost got to that scum again. Local anomalies are so weak that they lose the auto-battle, this speeded up the process at least. In any case, I hope I don't win now or in the next couple of attempts because this will only prove how stupid the design of the boss is.
You don't need the 5th nugget so don't care about him/her. Read Nihil's passives and then your's too.
I know, I take the fifth hero in order to defeat other opponents faster.
Minh Jan 9, 2023 @ 6:14am 
Librarian without Magical Girl should be Iori The Purple Tear with Piercing Stance using Combat Pages (Cards) x3 Wedging Thorn, x3 Faultless Strike, & x3 Knock Back in Hatred phase. Inflict 10 Smokes & Mark to Nihil.
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Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 6:16am 
I won (literally the second try). It wasn't worth it at all, it was awful and dragged out. Thank you, although the purple woman sped up the killing process, because she ignores all the debuff
My mistake was that I played 4D chess, but it turned out that I was playing checkers with a mentally handicapped person.

All this section did was kill Roland as a character for me. I just don't care, I skipped his story and will ignore all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this crazy Sailor Moon fan has to say.
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Nope Jan 9, 2023 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
I won (literally the second try). It wasn't worth it at all, it was awful and dragged out. Thank you, although the purple woman sped up the killing process, because she ignores all the debuff
My mistake was that I played 4D chess, but it turned out that I was playing checkers with a mentally handicapped person.

All this section did was kill Roland as a character for me. I just don't care, I skipped his story and will ignore all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this crazy Sailor Moon fan has to say.
The whole thing was easily solved just by spending a bit of time reading the passives which doesn't take long and don't cost you anything at all, time practically pause unless you initial combat phase

And man, Roland play a big role in the game, those realization give you the reason why but you prefer to skip the best part of the game, well to each of their own
Hidebehind Jan 9, 2023 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by Nope:
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
I won (literally the second try). It wasn't worth it at all, it was awful and dragged out. Thank you, although the purple woman sped up the killing process, because she ignores all the debuff
My mistake was that I played 4D chess, but it turned out that I was playing checkers with a mentally handicapped person.

All this section did was kill Roland as a character for me. I just don't care, I skipped his story and will ignore all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this crazy Sailor Moon fan has to say.
The whole thing was easily solved just by spending a bit of time reading the passives which doesn't take long and don't cost you anything at all, time practically pause unless you initial combat phase

And man, Roland play a big role in the game, those realization give you the reason why but you prefer to skip the best part of the game, well to each of their own
From the fact that I understood how this boss works, he did not become more interesting. They took away all my cards, took away my builds and my strategy, and made me repeat the same set of actions for an entire hour without a single change! You have to be a very boring and monotonous person to say that it was cool.

I read on the forum that someone completely lost interest in both the fight and the character because the fight just kept going on and on. I'm talking about that guy with glasses who turned into angels. I passed this fight the first time, but if I lost or couldn't draw a character card right away, then I would be very angry at this stupid fight. After the fight with the angels, by the way, I also completely lost interest in this guy with glasses, he's just a cowardly loser - that's all you need to know about him. He's just uninteresting, I'm tired of him. But Myo the rabbit is the best!
Last edited by Hidebehind; Jan 9, 2023 @ 7:29am
Nope Jan 9, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
Originally posted by Nope:
The whole thing was easily solved just by spending a bit of time reading the passives which doesn't take long and don't cost you anything at all, time practically pause unless you initial combat phase

And man, Roland play a big role in the game, those realization give you the reason why but you prefer to skip the best part of the game, well to each of their own
From the fact that I understood how this boss works, he did not become more interesting. They took away all my cards, took away my builds and my strategy, and made me repeat the same set of actions for an entire hour without a single change! You have to be a very boring and monotonous person to say that it was cool.

I read on the forum that someone completely lost interest in both the fight and the character because the fight just kept going on and on. I'm talking about that guy with glasses who turned into angels. I passed this fight the first time, but if I lost or couldn't draw a character card right away, then I would be very angry at this stupid fight. After the fight with the angels, by the way, I also completely lost interest in this guy with glasses, he's just a cowardly loser - that's all you need to know about him. He's just uninteresting, I'm tired of him. But Myo the rabbit is the best!
an hour for Tiph final phase? You could have just timed the stagger to have everyone go all out and kill it in first cycle
I mean the only opportunity to damage the boss and you choose to repeat the cycle for an hour. You are ready to join Lobotomy Corporation then :lunar2019piginablanket:
I get the feeling that you call Hokma coward because his Realization is about protecting him, look like Angela will suffer the same fate if it is
Hidebehind Jan 10, 2023 @ 3:45am 
Originally posted by Nope:
Originally posted by Hidebehind:
From the fact that I understood how this boss works, he did not become more interesting. They took away all my cards, took away my builds and my strategy, and made me repeat the same set of actions for an entire hour without a single change! You have to be a very boring and monotonous person to say that it was cool.

I read on the forum that someone completely lost interest in both the fight and the character because the fight just kept going on and on. I'm talking about that guy with glasses who turned into angels. I passed this fight the first time, but if I lost or couldn't draw a character card right away, then I would be very angry at this stupid fight. After the fight with the angels, by the way, I also completely lost interest in this guy with glasses, he's just a cowardly loser - that's all you need to know about him. He's just uninteresting, I'm tired of him. But Myo the rabbit is the best!
an hour for Tiph final phase? You could have just timed the stagger to have everyone go all out and kill it in first cycle
I mean the only opportunity to damage the boss and you choose to repeat the cycle for an hour. You are ready to join Lobotomy Corporation then :lunar2019piginablanket:
I get the feeling that you call Hokma coward because his Realization is about protecting him, look like Angela will suffer the same fate if it is
Stun the boss who has 300 stamina, and the magical girls deal stamina damage from 0 to 5. Sure guy, stun the boss on the very first turn.
I'm sorry man, but you're just a very boring person who tries to justify ♥♥♥♥♥♥ design because you love monotonous actions. Tell me how you defeated the Angels on the first turn by stunning the boss xD
I just said that you hate fun, why did my words hurt you so much?
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