Library Of Ruina

Library Of Ruina

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changb1 Feb 17, 2021 @ 3:08am
Harold overshadowed by Olivier?
As title suggests, I get it that Olivier is a powerful fixer and all, but having all abilities of Harold plus a powerful twelve fixer on Olivier, kind of made Harold an inferior cheap knockoff of the page obtained almost at the same time.

Aside from more health and stagger resist, to make matters worse, even their stagger and health resistances are ironically the same, kind of make it seemed PM made Olivier the better Harold on purpose... though I hope not.

I guess the only noticeable difference is Harold having a larger range in speed having 1-8, though compared to 2-7, I don’t really think that’s worth all benefits Olivier has over Harold.

Just a grain of salt here, don’t think nerfing Olivier is a good idea, maybe make Harold better? Would be cool if Harold have insane speed like 3-8, or maybe the only page in game with three Endured or high stagger/health stats. So far preferring the high stagger/health solution since Harold actually has better stats than Olivier in game.

Even as a character with not much screen time or memorable actions, hope PM can still consider making Harold an unique page like all other gold pages

Edit: fixed gender ambiguity by removing he/she
Last edited by changb1; Feb 17, 2021 @ 11:12pm
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fairtoki Feb 17, 2021 @ 5:04am 
inferior yes. cheap knockoff No.

He is just a good Speed 3 with 4 lights at emotion level 0 (which you only have 7 : RedMist BlackSilence Xiao Yan PurpleTear and 3 new Hana), good passive with Hana Unique pages. not powerful as Oliver but high utility you can build anything on him and don't need to worry about pages draw and light regen.

Just simple guy had 1 dialogue talk and disappear from story in to your rosters forever.
He is THE MAN, Every RPG need a guy like him,
bgammax Feb 17, 2021 @ 6:42am 
Harold is still useful because the Hana passive is crazy and he gets to use TTF, but yeah, it would be nice for Harold to have something to himself instead of just being a worse Olivier.
changb1 Feb 17, 2021 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by fairtoki:
inferior yes. cheap knockoff No.

He is just a good Speed 3 with 4 lights at emotion level 0 (which you only have 7 : RedMist BlackSilence Xiao Yan PurpleTear and 3 new Hana), good passive with Hana Unique pages. not powerful as Oliver but high utility you can build anything on him and don't need to worry about pages draw and light regen.

Just simple guy had 1 dialogue talk and disappear from story in to your rosters forever.
He is THE MAN, Every RPG need a guy like him,

When a guy has simple talk and lesser skill set, would have been better if the page is kept purple instead, but then there’s Hana fixers key pages so...

I don’t mind him being weaker than Olivier, but the fact in 99% of all expects weaker gets me.

Even Pamela/Pameli at the very least has different resistances than Oscar, and they are hardcovers.

Originally posted by bgammax:
Harold is still useful because the Hana passive is crazy and he gets to use TTF, but yeah, it would be nice for Harold to have something to himself instead of just being a worse Olivier.

Totally agree, even a lame 2 cost passive would do as long as it feels unique, like gain 2 health per combat page used or something
Flygoniaks Feb 17, 2021 @ 8:32am 
Y'all know Harold is probably a GIRL, right? Listen to the intro for Urban Nightmare again.
Sebee Feb 17, 2021 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Flygoniaks:
Y'all know Harold is probably a GIRL, right? Listen to the intro for Urban Nightmare again.
no shot
Mastema Feb 17, 2021 @ 10:13am 
Originally posted by Flygoniaks:
Y'all know Harold is probably a GIRL, right? Listen to the intro for Urban Nightmare again.
wait what
bgammax Feb 17, 2021 @ 10:21am 
Originally posted by Flygoniaks:
Y'all know Harold is probably a GIRL, right? Listen to the intro for Urban Nightmare again.
Harold can't be a Guy in Real Life because he's fictional :catlie:

Edit: After rewatching the UN intro it sounds like there are 2 masculine voices and 1 feminine voice from Hana talking in the first part, then a second part where a different character picks up to announce the upgrade to Urban Nightmare. It doesn't tell whose voice belongs to who but its like that Harold and Olivier are the masculines in the beginning
Last edited by bgammax; Feb 17, 2021 @ 10:29am
Lovise Feb 17, 2021 @ 10:24am 
Inferior yes. She would be hella op/good if her passive applies to everyone instead of one random mofo.
Flygoniaks Feb 17, 2021 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by bgammax:
Edit: After rewatching the UN intro it sounds like there are 2 masculine voices and 1 feminine voice from Hana talking in the first part, then a second part where a different character picks up to announce the upgrade to Urban Nightmare. It doesn't tell whose voice belongs to who but its like that Harold and Olivier are the masculines in the beginning
Nope. The "two" masculine voices you're hearing are both Olivier, and the deep feminine voice is Harold. The second, higher feminine voice is Mirinae. The sound file names confirm this.
Last edited by Flygoniaks; Feb 17, 2021 @ 11:05am
Daijin Feb 17, 2021 @ 5:26pm 
Nah Harold is genderless obviously.
Vapor Jul 20, 2023 @ 10:03pm 
In old versions Harold had unique passive that allowed her be on the same level with Mirinae and Olivier. Harold's Hana for All is similar to Mirinae's, but affecting to self instead of other.
When gaining Strength, Endurance, Protection, or Stagger Protection through Combat Pages: gain additional stack as well.
Minh Jul 21, 2023 @ 5:05pm 
The Art Book of Library says that it's female.
Last edited by Minh; Jul 21, 2023 @ 5:07pm
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Date Posted: Feb 17, 2021 @ 3:08am
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