Library Of Ruina

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David Feb 7, 2021 @ 11:44pm
Poor Myo - Speed dice conundrum
She can finally use more than one passive, but she still has Speed 1. :3
It's sad because even Church of Gear Worshippers can use Speed 2 and start battles with 3 dice :p

If I want to use someone with Speed 3, it leaves Yan, Esther, Kalo and the new guys (besides Olivier, he's already picked).

I like how on Red Mist's page, she lists Speed 4th instead of 1st like everyone else.
Gebura "Speed? That's the least of my abilities" - has Legendary, Retaliate and Strongest listed before Speed 3 :P

Anyhow, anyone have a really good Yan, Kalo or Hana must-have build that makes strongest+prowess look bad?

note: I probably shouldn't use Esther given raging torrent passive seems cheap to transfer. Kalo's/Yan's special passives cost 4. Focus fire & discard got "nerfed/fixed" at some point but iirc that still looked decent because I didn't know it was broken in the first place.

note2: oh yeah, Esther/Kalo have 3 base light too. Another reason to strike Esther off my list. Myo having 4 light was another reason to use her besides S+P

note3: There are only 4 Health Haulers, but Maxim with All for Hana and charge gain cards could be pretty tanky (or just try Olivier). Same with discard decks.
Last edited by David; Feb 8, 2021 @ 12:37am
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fairtoki Feb 8, 2021 @ 12:59am 
- In long fight i use Kalo with 3 "5-cost card that reduce cost for every copies in hand i dont remember name", 3 "clone", 1 "light recovery of choice", 2 "low cost Range page from full stop office or Enma knife throw that is **exhaust**" use this on Keter floor so you clone all 5 cost pages, exhaust another 2, you have 7 pages left with curiosity you draw 6 so you will always draw 5-6 of that 5 cost page to make it cost 0 to use multiple time every turn
the reason i use Kalo is Speed 3 and ability to use range page.
**This build only shine in long fight or boss fight**

- Yan just give him heart on Chesed floor, or clone Nuke+ Magic trick
- Alternate way i use Yan is all 0-cost build this is 1 exclusive 7-cost nuke, 3 distortion blade, 2 single point stab, the rest is 0 cost page draw
Early: You play distortion blade every turn with another 0-cost page, only aim for one-side attack or lose clash. this get you a negative emotion
Midfight: after emotion lvl 2 or above you can easy clash and win with distortion blade. one-side attck with 0 cost free hit
Endfight: after you got 7 lights, use nuke this usually end the fight or staggle all enemy

- Oliver/Hana Pierce build is OP you should try it, you can do about 30-50 stagger to enemy that resist Pierce by yourself in the first turn with 4 light, 60+ stagger later on
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David Feb 8, 2021 @ 1:08am 
I know the card you mean. Was thinking about it in a clone deck. I'm not sure the best way to make a Disposal deck for Nikolai actually, since if I focus on Disposal everything else is weaker.

Oh. Keter. I guess I'm looking for non-hero floors (Roland,Binah,Gebura) since its the 5th page I'm looking for. I'm probably not using some overpowered burn or discard or e.g.o related deck I could be using instead though.
That's an interesting idea for lies&c with using the 5 cost card. Usually I can stay at 8 cards in hand anyhow if I focus.

I'll look at Yan/Chesed. Clone Nuke & Magic trick? I assume nuke is distorted blade, I'll look at it later for magic.
I haven't messed around with 7 cost cards much yet, same for mirage storm.

Olivier/Hana pierce build? I'll have to look into that, I can't remember anything pierce related about Olivier so I feel kinda dumb haha. I haven't even used him yet tbh, was planning to check his trigrams but I figured it's just something like Yan's Messenger but on self. I sent Roland against Kurokuro so I could see Furioso just now :p
fairtoki Feb 8, 2021 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by .:
I know the card you mean. Was thinking about it in a clone deck. I'm not sure the best way to make a Disposal deck for Nikolai actually, since if I focus on Disposal everything else is weaker.

Oh. Keter. I guess I'm looking for non-hero floors (Roland,Binah,Gebura) since its the 5th page I'm looking for. I'm probably not using some overpowered burn or discard or e.g.o related deck I could be using instead though.
That's an interesting idea for lies&c with using the 5 cost card. Usually I can stay at 8 cards in hand anyhow if I focus.

I'll look at Yan/Chesed. Clone Nuke & Magic trick? I assume nuke is distorted blade, I'll look at it later for magic.
I haven't messed around with 7 cost cards much yet, same for mirage storm.

Olivier/Hana pierce build? I'll have to look into that, I can't remember anything pierce related about Olivier so I feel kinda dumb haha. I haven't even used him yet tbh, was planning to check his trigrams but I figured it's just something like Yan's Messenger but on self. I sent Roland against Kurokuro so I could see Furioso just now :p

Nuke i mean is the 7-cost mass attack page, it's Distort Blade i just check,
the 0- cost i mention is actually "Sword of Volition" not "Distort blade", sorry for naming mistake

As for Pierce build, oliver or Hana not buff pierce specific but triagram card can boost stagger damage +2 with many passive pierce stagger +5 so you get around +7 stagger per hit on pierce.
Edit: https://imgur.com/wM9Q8dG
Last edited by fairtoki; Feb 8, 2021 @ 3:31am
I recently just got myo (and recently just started playing) and I noticed you can put geburas "the strongest" on her and get at least 1 free +5 power dice every turn this way, not to mention it can draw aggro from anything. I think the way the strongest works is if multiple dice rolls are the minimum, it raises all those dice to infinity, so it's possible to get more than one as well. I then put margin from olgas page (draw and +1 light if hand is empty) and +1 pierce dice and I use a full ranged attack deck (for now). A full ranged deck has a few advantages: each ranged card tends to attack a lot of times at once which maximizes the effectiveness of +5 power, it's ranged so you can alpha damage someone and stagger them quickly before they can do anything (which isn't specific to myo, but with the power boost
she becomes extremely good at it and not just on the first turn), myo inherently has the thing that lets you redraw ranged cards which is a must for using pure ranged pages in long acts, and ranged cards have good damage per light/dice even not considering the above. myo becomes a pretty good ranged dps with this setup. With margin she can consistently fire 2 cards every turn and their average dice sum per card is something like 18 per card (with my current cards) for a total of about 32-40 ranged damage per turn, where my other characters (currently) average like 24-32 and less consistently (but with a bit more defense/counter dices in cards). *myo also starts with 4 light so she can use 2 2 light cards at the same time from the start and theres no way to get screwed over with a hand of all 2+ light cards on the first turn.

red mist, lowell, R corp pages are about the edge of where I am, so I don't -think- I have any super strong pages yet (I'm led to believe there are broken op ones stronger than myo still to come and that even with this sort of setup, there are better sets of pages in the endgame). Somehow managed to breeze through this far even with my crappy use of abnormalities. I've been using hod's team (without bleed or realization ego) a lot because hod is cute and her team is cute and I only just now realized todays expression is a free +2 power only after finally finishing hod's realization. I wish there was a way to transfer characters between floors instead of only their pages because hod's nuggets are the best (cutest).
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