Roland Card Copies

[VibrantFish]

There was this twitter post about how Roland's new cards have counterparts in the cards of other guests which made me wonder if all of his cards had a similar counterpart. The post showed that Allas Workshop was a variation of Absorb Impact and Crystal Atelier was a variation of Flashing Strike to name a few. Anyone know if all of Roland's cards have a variation?

[Minh]

Combat Pages (Cards) Ranga Workshop looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Outburst. Combat Pages (Cards) Zelkova Workshop looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Snake Slit. Combat Pages (Cards) Crystal Atelier looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Flashing Strike. Combat Pages (Cards) Atelier Logic looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Suppressing Shots. Combat Pages (Cards) Durandal looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Chī Wěn. Combat Pages (Cards) Wheels Industry looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Overpower.

[dytong]

Project Moon reuses card templates sometimes. Compare some of the Red Mist/Purple Tear pages.

[Jinlunch]

A lot of them also have similar although modified dice compositions. Crystal Atelier's dice are the exact opposite of Flashing Strike, same with Wheel's Industry and Crack of Dawn (which it looks more like than Overpower.) Then you have Suppressing Shot compared to Atelier Logic which has the same dice but with an added pierce in the middle. Obviously this doesn't apply to all of the ones with visual similarities, but that's 3 of them out of 9. I believe the implication is that, during his time as a fixer presumably in intelligence gathering, he modified or improved the fighting styles of those he met for his needs.

[Ekimmak]

There's the one that reduces enemy die power at the start of a clash, and while I can't find one exactly like it, there's quite a few that mimic it. Iron Wall is the one I recall from my search.

[Yhune]

There are just so many ways to swing a weapon I guess, unless you meant dice composition and effects, which he has no new effects.
Even Furioso, which has dice removal, is found in Disposal and Forgotten.

[none]

Originally posted by Ekimmak:

There's the one that reduces enemy die power at the start of a clash, and while I can't find one exactly like it, there's quite a few that mimic it. Iron Wall is the one I recall from my search.

maybe the one from index? i remember there's one that has nearly same effect, idk

[VibrantFish]

Originally posted by Jinlunch:

A lot of them also have similar although modified dice compositions. Crystal Atelier's dice are the exact opposite of Flashing Strike, same with Wheel's Industry and Crack of Dawn (which it looks more like than Overpower.) Then you have Suppressing Shot compared to Atelier Logic which has the same dice but with an added pierce in the middle. Obviously this doesn't apply to all of the ones with visual similarities, but that's 3 of them out of 9. I believe the implication is that, during his time as a fixer presumably in intelligence gathering, he modified or improved the fighting styles of those he met for his needs.

I mean Wheels Industry and Crack of Dawn display their characters brandishing their swords off their backs with their right hands whereas Overpower is posed as if the weapon is currently being brought down on their enemy (also left hand).

[winter wave]

https://twitter.com/Lunartique07/status/1358347768276742145 https://twitter.com/Lunartique07/status/1358438202093182978

[Minh]

Combat Pages (Cards) Wheels Industry looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Overpower because dark background & close up shot, not medium shot in Combat Pages (Cards) Crack of Dawn.

[Jinlunch]

Originally posted by Minh:

Combat Pages (Cards) Wheels Industry looks similar to Combat Pages (Cards) Overpower because dark background & close up shot, not medium shot in Combat Pages (Cards) Crack of Dawn.

The composition and background may be similar, but the method of attack isn't. McCaein is raising his weapon for an downward stab which you can tell by the fact that his elbow is slightly in front of him, while Roland is brandishing his weapon for an overhead slash which you can tell by the fact that his elbow is positioned slightly to the side. With the position Roland's arm is in in that photoshop, he would have an extremely difficult time stabbing someone due to human anatomy while McCaein swinging a sword that large with his elbow in front of him could cause damage to his shoulder due to the angle he's holding the blade at.