Concept: Eileen Worshipper Support

[StartUp21]

Well, I usually toast some specific members of the community for not thinking before saying, and never actually post a concept outside of my server. Though I think I would like some second opinions regarding this overhaul for my mod (Yes, Afterglow, where the difficulty is ten times harder, so please bleach all knowledge of Strongest Myo or anything that has something to do with Passive Transfer for the duration of reading this concept.)

Since this is just paper concept, the format are not streamlined yet, apologies.

+Adds in the following Passive
Promulgating Enlightenment: Your Allies Purge all Smoke at the start of the scene if they do not have Puffy Brume and/or Penumbra Shroud

Thought Gear: Preach (Golden Exclusive)
1 Light-Ranged
On Use: Spend up to 3 Smoke to restore that much Light
6~11 Blunt On hit Inflict 3 Smoke to each other

Thought Gear-Propagate (Golden Exclusive)
3 Light-Ranged
On Use: All allies Draw 1 Page, Inflict 2 Smoke to ALL
5~9 Blunt On hit Inflict 1 Smoke to ALL
5~9 Blunt On hit Inflict 1 Smoke to ALL
4~10 Slash Counter On Hit Inflict 1 Smoke

Thought Gear-Accelerate (Golden Exclusive)
1 Light-Quickplay
Spend up to 3 Smoke, for each spent, Draw 1 Page
Thought Gear-Brainwash (Golden Exclusive)
6 Light-Mass Attack
Exhausts, Targets EVERYONE ELSE.
On Use: Exhausts All other copies of this card in your hand, deck and discard. Restore 1 Light for each exhausted
5~10 Blunt Summation
14~20 Blunt Summation On Hit Immobilize Target

Okay, so that is the bulk of her gear. I am putting it in so you can see the whole package of her cards. This here is the one I would like you options

Meat Gear-Inspire
1 Light-Ranged
This card starts in your hand.
On Use: Restore the health of allied Worshipers by 10. Exhaust all other copies of this card
Give all Worshipers 1 Permanent Speed Dice, 2 Permanent Protection and 2 Permanent Stagger Protection. They also gain 1 Permanent Protection and 1 Permanent Stagger Protection upon reaching Emotion Level IV. This effect is removed afterwards.
5~11 Evasion

Meat Gear-Enhance
2 Light-Ranged
This card starts in your hand.
On Use Give 2 Strength to all allied Worshipers Next Scene. Exhaust all other copies of this card
Give all Worshipers 1 Prestige, this effect is removed afterwards
4~10 Block
4~7 Block

To explain, Prestige is a status effect that prevents any instance of indirect damage (to Bleed Burn Fairy Erosion, true damage infliction, stuffs like that.) however not indirect stagger. You lose 1 Prestige when an ally dies.

So, any opinions from this concept if I may ask? Please note that Passive Transfer does not exist in this context.

- Mizuki, Director of the modding project

[none]

Is this for the boss fight? idk if my opinion would be good to you, so take it with a grain of salt.

instead of making new passive that purge smoke, why not just give it a passive that make smoke effect more intense (since smoke is their theme and strength basically). if i remember right, the concept of smoke status is that anyone who has it would get heavier damage the more smoke they have if they are not prepared. so, why not just make the passive changed to give any character in the field 1 Fragile debuff (for 2 scene if you want it more intense) for every smoke they have if they don't have the specific passive to counter it. (like 5 Smoke = 5 Fragile or 1 Fragile per 2 Smoke like 10 Smoke = 5 Fragile). this will also force player to clash with all the dice instead of ignoring some attack since the fragile from smoke could destroy them fast if ignored.

it just confusing to have passive that purge their smoke even though it is beneficial for them to have more (maybe there some detail i forgot so sorry about that).

[Mizuki-MixOre]

Uh, not exactly. This is the player’s rewards getting buffed, not the boss getting overhauled

[none]

ah, sorry then. i thought it was for boss battle when i see the Meat Gear - Inspire since it could be abused with clone to get 8 Permanent protection and stagger protection. didn't see the exhaust other copy effect lol.

edit: is it exclusive? just want to ask if this card could be used on rabbit?

[Daijin]

I hope PM adds more obtainable stuff from the Ensemble fight but I doubt it at this point.

[Mizuki-MixOre]

They are all Golden Exclusives essentially, so there is that for her.

[Mizuki-MixOre]

Originally posted by Daijin:

I hope PM adds more obtainable stuff from the Ensemble fight but I doubt it at this point.

Well, this is why we are doing it ourselves. If Moon does not do it, Afterglow will.

[Mizuki-MixOre]

Originally posted by none:

ah, sorry then. i thought it was for boss battle when i see the Meat Gear - Inspire since it could be abused with clone to get 8 Permanent protection and stagger protection. didn't see the exhaust other copy effect lol.


edit: is it exclusive? just want to ask if this card could be used on rabbit?

It should specifically stated only Worshippers gets this. Apologies for that.

Clear Smoke thing is in case you want a non-Smoke Passive ally in the floor

[none]

Originally posted by Mizuki-MixOre:

Originally posted by none:

ah, sorry then. i thought it was for boss battle when i see the Meat Gear - Inspire since it could be abused with clone to get 8 Permanent protection and stagger protection. didn't see the exhaust other copy effect lol.


edit: is it exclusive? just want to ask if this card could be used on rabbit?

It should specifically stated only Worshippers gets this. Apologies for that.

Clear Smoke thing is in case you want a non-Smoke Passive ally in the floor

well, what i mean is that if this card can be used by rabbit or not since they have range exhaust nullification (sorry if my word is weird before this), i just thought if it is not exclusive and rabbit get this card, you could just run a team of 1 rabbit and 4 worshippers and use the rabbit as the buffer. imagine 4 of your librarian have around 10+ Prot and Stag Prot at the end of the act lol. if you meant that this card is exclusive for worshipper then sorry for my misunderstanding.

[Mizuki-MixOre]

The Meat Gear buff cards are Elieen’s Golden Exclusive. And they only affect Worshippers.

As much as I want to break the game, my main goal is to make hard fights, not broken player gears.

To be fair, reading difficulty rants from other players makes me question if they know Strongest Myo or 13th Toll rush or not.

In the case of Ensemble, because literally everyone looks like Transfer Fodder, the majority of the staffs in the mod project decided to overhaul the rewards you get if you are playing the mod.

[Dima green]

Wait, startup? did you guys really create a discussion just to advertise ag in the comments

[Daijin]

I think the concept of a playable Eileen based around her original boss fight works as a very nice endgame smoke team for the player. Not sure to what extent the worshipers will become stronger though since they still start with only 1 speed die without attributions and 3 light at the end of the day.

I look forward to the other overhauled ensemble pages.

[Mizuki-MixOre]

Originally posted by Dima green:

Wait, startup? did you guys really create a discussion just to advertise ag in the comments

I swear I am going to punch you if you are still part of the staff. Though no, I am asking for second opinions.

[Alpha Chad]

Who tf is afterglow? Are y’all datamining the next story beats? Wow, can’t believe I just had the game spoilt for me. I’m off to cry to my multiple hot Gfs now

[Mizuki-MixOre]

Originally posted by Daijin:

I think the concept of a playable Eileen based around her original boss fight works as a very nice endgame smoke team for the player. Not sure to what extent the worshipers will become stronger though since they still start with only 1 speed die without attributions and 3 light at the end of the day.

I look forward to the other overhauled ensemble pages.

Well, they are published in the Afterglow server, feel free to check it if you wish. Because I will not publish them to the steam public as they are semi-final already.

Also for real, why did Moon tax Overspeed at 5 Light, it is clearly a 4 Light card.