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Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 3:52am
buff binah
lock is so useless when 3 oppos reach ult,chain has only one dice and isnt that powerful either efficient to tunnel one down,mass attack is so bad low damage trash debuff and 3 protection for one scene is nothing,if you staggered you staggered you die you still die.
the only time i max the value out of shockwave is that recover lights fully for 2 scenes just spamming it and staggered all,well,you have to roll one first.
she cant use other pages she cant have counter dice and retaliate is so costy for her becuz she literally dont have any sort of power buff on her own.
is she really designed only for cali?then i need garion page instead plz PM show some love
Last edited by Alatex; Dec 31, 2020 @ 5:54pm
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FlavorTown Dec 31, 2020 @ 4:12am 
You might have noticed that all her cards are "degraded", it is likely not intended as final power level of her cards
Leviathan Dec 31, 2020 @ 7:02am 
Binah herself despite being able to solo Kali is more a support/group type. Even back in LC she fought by trying to breach the abnormalities, and as Garrion she brought the Claws AND made Daniel release the abnos.
Don't expect her to become a monster powerhouse like Red Mist and Purple Tear as she's clearly designed to fight against a single enemy(aside from the mass attack), though we'll likely turn her passive into "Complete Arbiter" someday.

Also, fairy rocks.
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by FlavorTown:
You might have noticed that all her cards are "degraded", it is likely not intended as final power level of her cards
havent i just said that
FlavorTown Dec 31, 2020 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by 霧島玉:
Originally posted by FlavorTown:
You might have noticed that all her cards are "degraded", it is likely not intended as final power level of her cards
havent i just said that
In a way yes, but I wanted to inform you that asking it is useless because PM is already planning on doing it. That's like asking for Xiao fight, of course it will come, when time comes for it
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by FlavorTown:
Originally posted by 霧島玉:
havent i just said that
In a way yes, but I wanted to inform you that asking it is useless because PM is already planning on doing it. That's like asking for Xiao fight, of course it will come, when time comes for it
the thing i wanna point out is that this present binah is not enough,they need to buff this incompleted arbiter before they upgraded or somehow turn into garion's page
cuz binah's ♥♥♥♥ now,fairy looks good compared to bleed cuz no one play around bleed anymore.
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 8:11am 
im saying buff binah,and you guys saying 'binah is not strong cuz garion lost to cali(by underestimate the power of ego,yes)' 'just wait till they bring garion'
FlavorTown Dec 31, 2020 @ 8:14am 
Originally posted by 霧島玉:
Originally posted by FlavorTown:
In a way yes, but I wanted to inform you that asking it is useless because PM is already planning on doing it. That's like asking for Xiao fight, of course it will come, when time comes for it
the thing i wanna point out is that this present binah is not enough,they need to buff this incompleted arbiter before they upgraded or somehow turn into garion's page
cuz binah's ♥♥♥♥ now,fairy looks good compared to bleed cuz no one play around bleed anymore.
Nah, Binah is okay, not too strong though. I personally wouldn't be against her rolls being slightly buffed (like +1 to ceiling on 2-3 die cards, +2 to 1 die cards, something like that), but don't think she requires them that much
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 8:19am 
it would be more complicated than that i suppose,just just some damage to fairy,one more dice for pillar, and block all ult in one scene for lock. well,at least you know what i mean,ty
AritheReaper Dec 31, 2020 @ 9:33am 
...You're kidding, right? Putting the fact there's a very obvious complete form coming somewhere along the line aside, her incomplete form is fine.

Lock's situational, but when you know you're liable to get Mass Attacked (e.x. during Purple Tear after the jump, final R. Corp fight's last phase, Kali's Red Mist phase, etc) it's a nice card to have.

And even if you ignore it entirely, you've got so many cards in your hand every turn that you can usually lock at least a speed die, if not two, and still use fairy to get light back. Her three cost card has good dice roll ranges, and since her first die prevents dice from being recycled, if your opponent's playing a single large dice roll card, you can just shut it down entirely without having to worry about RNG.

Plus the fact that you could realistically mass attack on turn two is a nice bonus, especially with the three protection it gives.

She's definitely a more team oriented fighter, and rewards you for primarily focusing one target down at a time, but she's far from in need of a buff.
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 9:37am 
look,if that is what say the usage of lock,even stagger is more reliable,what i say is not theory or complaint,is the conclusion of 50 hours of testing and gaining experience.no,and what you say is just what it is,in fact it's bad,end of the talk.

you ignore what i say and say im kiding you and i ignore what i just said is just hilarious

Originally posted by AritheReaper:
...You're kidding, right? Putting the fact there's a very obvious complete form coming somewhere along the line aside, her incomplete form is fine.

Lock's situational, but when you know you're liable to get Mass Attacked (e.x. during Purple Tear after the jump, final R. Corp fight's last phase, Kali's Red Mist phase, etc) it's a nice card to have.

And even if you ignore it entirely, you've got so many cards in your hand every turn that you can usually lock at least a speed die, if not two, and still use fairy to get light back. Her three cost card has good dice roll ranges, and since her first die prevents dice from being recycled, if your opponent's playing a single large dice roll card, you can just shut it down entirely without having to worry about RNG.

Plus the fact that you could realistically mass attack on turn two is a nice bonus, especially with the three protection it gives.

She's definitely a more team oriented fighter, and rewards you for primarily focusing one target down at a time, but she's far from in need of a buff.
Sebee Dec 31, 2020 @ 11:51am 
Fairy is broken, just let Binah do her thing, while tanking for her with the rest of your nuggets. Though I do hope to see a Completed Arbiter set for her later on, maybe after her realization, she's pretty good as is.
Edit: Her mass attack is cheap and effective, just give her that one Judgement Bird page that gives her a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of strength and the Punishing Bird page that gives her bonus damage based on the amount of turns she hasnt been hit, and her mass attack essentially cancels out an entire combat page for all of your opponents. Lock is great when one of your opponents is a bigger threat than another. Since most, if not all the fights so far, have had a "boss" with mroe threatening combat pages, you should focus on giving them one less dice. I guess Lock would be useless in fights like Index 2, and RR 2, but hey, everything has it's uses somewhere.
Last edited by Sebee; Dec 31, 2020 @ 11:57am
Sieg Dec 31, 2020 @ 1:20pm 
Honestly my Binah floor is probably my strongest floor - you just need to build around her and recognize her as a debuffer and lockdown character, not a straight combat character like Gebura

Degraded Pillar is one of the most useful cards in the entire game, esp with Eternally Lit Lamp, and lets Binah completely nullify huge, single die nukes like Great Split, Violet Blade, etc

Picking a single enemy and hitting them with 2 Chains at once basically forces them to skip a turn unless they're at max emotion

And her mass attack feels less for damage and more for mitigating a turn where you expect a lot of hits on your nuggets, that you need to prevent.

Lastly, if you manage to stack lots of Fairy on a single target, she can melt a target harder than pre-nerf Bleed

I disagree that Binah's weaker than the SotC gold pages we've been getting, but she's very weird and needs a much different playstyle than most other characters - it took me a while to figure out how to properly use her but once I did she feels like the strongest in the game

Also, she is the ONLY key page we have that has a 75% resistance to a damage type, and that's not nothing

I'm sorry it feels like a lot of other people here aren't listening to you

Personally I dont think we're getting a playable 'complete arbiter' because Binah doesn't really need it, and if we did it would completely eclipse the Red Mist and everyone else
AritheReaper Dec 31, 2020 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Kirishima Kyoko:
look,if that is what say the usage of lock,even stagger is more reliable,what i say is not theory or complaint,is the conclusion of 50 hours of testing and gaining experience.no,and what you say is just what it is,in fact it's bad,end of the talk.

you ignore what i say and say im kiding you and i ignore what i just said is just hilarious

Originally posted by AritheReaper:
...You're kidding, right? Putting the fact there's a very obvious complete form coming somewhere along the line aside, her incomplete form is fine.

Lock's situational, but when you know you're liable to get Mass Attacked (e.x. during Purple Tear after the jump, final R. Corp fight's last phase, Kali's Red Mist phase, etc) it's a nice card to have.

And even if you ignore it entirely, you've got so many cards in your hand every turn that you can usually lock at least a speed die, if not two, and still use fairy to get light back. Her three cost card has good dice roll ranges, and since her first die prevents dice from being recycled, if your opponent's playing a single large dice roll card, you can just shut it down entirely without having to worry about RNG.

Plus the fact that you could realistically mass attack on turn two is a nice bonus, especially with the three protection it gives.

She's definitely a more team oriented fighter, and rewards you for primarily focusing one target down at a time, but she's far from in need of a buff.

...Putting aside the fact you didn't address literally anything I just said, other than stagger being better than lock (which is sort of defeated by the fact that you ALWAYS want to stagger opponents...), let alone how buffing any of it would remain balanced, I refer to the two posts above this as well.

Like Sieg, Philosophy's probably one of my best floors, her Mass Attack is surprisingly good, fairy's great when combined with her tanking. I personally expect a Complete Arbiter buff in the future, though it's possible we won't get it, as her unique playstyle is very effective.
Last edited by AritheReaper; Dec 31, 2020 @ 3:17pm
Alatex Dec 31, 2020 @ 11:49pm 
fairy is broken.


yeah you definitely is the type of person that buff the dice damage instead of power
CG_Hunted Jan 1, 2021 @ 1:10am 
Originally posted by Kirishima Kyoko:
fairy is broken.


yeah you definitely is the type of person that buff the dice damage instead of power

that why she stay like that no need to buff her in her incomplete state afterall its already powerful and with fairy a combat page that stop recycle dice (best used aggainst massive dmg power dice like purple tear single attack slice or disposal of R corps 2 or gebura charge and etc

a combat page that make high cost u should know that if u use her on r corp 2 u can lock a single person on not able to used there special attack early

a shockway that give every prot to all (this a real game change like on r corps 2 and if u let them or no choice that they get 20 charge and they use there special attack it reduce there dmg massively also with gebura and purple tear mass attacks)

also u know how broken fairy is and if u have a problem with getting stagger just get mind hauler and also health hauler is the best for her since she cant dodge u just need to focus on blunt and pierce use your Broken no recycle dice(before it has 2 no recycle dice but it too overpower so they bring it to 1)

oh if also u want dice power just give her empower shot and fevor work wonder with her
Last edited by CG_Hunted; Jan 1, 2021 @ 1:20am
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