[Spoiler] Confirmed the Identity of the 'Black Silence', alone with Some Other Guesses

[Doge]

Reasons that made me confirm Roland is the 'Black Silence':
1>> In Thumb episode I, Katriel says that Rumanos Cartel was attacked by the Black Silence;
2>> In Gebura episode V, Roland smashes the entire Rumanos Cartel.

I also speculate that the girl mentioned in Nikolai's Page is Carmen, cause she do has a pair of red eyes and dashing brown hair. And, the war she started is against L Corporation, a major energy company before Lobotomy Corporation.

[Leviathan]

Still find it hilarious how some people dismissed Roland because of the Thumb mentioning the attack on Rumanos because he was listening to it from the Library. It's like they forgot the concept of how time passes and you can refer to things that aren't from the immediate past.

Anyway, DD spoilers but it's apparently shown in a flashback of some still untranslated chapters that Benjamin approached Dias and I think Moses?, with the intention to start a war. The Smoke War, which caused the fall of the previous L Corp and allowed LobCorp to take its place so they could hide their plan for the SoL from the Head by acting as a Wing. So it's probably Dias, rather than Carmen, as this would take place after Garrion's attack.

[Doge]

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Still find it hilarious how some people dismissed Roland because of the Thumb mentioning the attack on Rumanos because he was listening to it from the Library. It's like they forgot the concept of how time passes and you can refer to things that aren't from the immediate past.

The Thumb mentioned that Rumanos was attacked by the Black Silence a while ago, not the immediate past.

[Doge]

Besides, we have yet come to a conclusion how time passes in the library.

[Doge]

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A while ago means some time ago.
For example: A while ago, Roland's wife was still alive.
Or: A while ago, Roland was sent to the Library.
Your point is?

My bad. I've just mistakenly thought that Leviathan wanted to disprove my words

[Rabbit]

Yea

Roland obviously black silence at this point

We'll fight purple tear, I wonder if Roland will intervene some way since it seems purple tear help him get to library

Possibly for revenge?

[Sebee]

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A while ago means some time ago.
For example: A while ago, Roland's wife was still alive.
Or: A while ago, Roland was sent to the Library.
Your point is?

My bad. I've just mistakenly thought that Leviathan wanted to disprove my words

I totally misunderstood your first comment, my bad

[Leviathan]

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Besides, we have yet come to a conclusion how time passes in the library.

I'm pretty sure it follows the regular flow of time from outside, we just had a janky time-relation to the WARP Train because of how the whole thing works.

Also yeah, I was just commenting on the people who tried disproving Roland being the Silence because of the attack on Rumanos.

[BUT IT WAS ME DIO!!]

I think Roland is trying to get his revenge on library as this point.
Since library is the true source of distortion.

[[FOR]tune cookies]

dont know how many people read the characters books after obtainment but the book of lesti mentions a color sneaking unto one of the warp trains and causing alot of trouble and roland has said he got on one once.

[CarThief]

Who's to say it was Roland? Heck, he isn't even confirmed to be a Colour so far, perhaps just a bystander in the sitation, but most likely not involved in that WARP-train scenario at all.

I mean, if he was, he wouldn't be remembering it since no-one remembers what happened between the start of the train ride and moment of their restoration. Some times WARP cleanup employees are enough, and if ♥♥♥♥ gets tough, R-Corp cleans it up. They can do damage as they please anyway, as long as the flesh is returned to the correct seats to start the restoration.

(Jeez... Reminds me of Viscera Cleanup Detail... Except they deal with discreet disposal and cleanup in there, not retrieval/restoration... Still, might make for a interesting map idea, hm...)

Well, anyway, i'm not particularly convinced he's a Colour, let alone the Black Silence. We will just have to see in due time.

Not like there's an easy answer yet. But if any place is worth investigating, it's any statements he or other made about the Pianist, now i don't remember exactly, but either Roland lied a little about the events, or someone like Blue Boi (Argalia) mentioned a different take of events regarding the Pianist, it's all a bit foggy on what's true and what's false. Either way, someone has to be wrong/lying. Bit lazy to check myself, though.

Perhaps Chesed's floor realization will show the last part of the puzzle if the trend continues of Roland being the middle floor's bosses. (Wonder what they'll do for the "lower" floors, hm...)
That or stuff like the Purple Tear, who could be added any day now.

[Araders]

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dont know how many people read the characters books after obtainment but the book of lesti mentions a color sneaking unto one of the warp trains and causing alot of trouble and roland has said he got on one once.

Many people know about this. Another thing is that it is not known how many colors there are. Probably only an absolutely beggar person did not go on the warp train, so here something converges and something does not.

[Araders]

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Perhaps Chesed's floor realization will show the last part of the puzzle if the trend continues of Roland being the middle floor's bosses. (Wonder what they'll do for the "lower" floors, hm...)

Perhaps it is the owners of the lower floors who will choke. I have a feeling that, for example, Benjamin has not yet let go of everything that he has in his soul, I cannot say the same about Bina, since she has confirmed her position of an observer.

[CarThief]

Hm, well, the Library sure was good at stirring the emotions of Angela/Roland when it was time, so even Binah could fall victim to it. Though it would definitely be a first to have a patron librarian go nuts on their own floor.
(Though entirely possible as a 4v1, or someone like Roland standing in for the missing patron librarian, its gonna be weird for them to balance Binah's page vs the realization anyway probably.)

[Vismel]

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Who's to say it was Roland? Heck, he isn't even confirmed to be a Colour so far, perhaps just a bystander in the sitation, but most likely not involved in that WARP-train scenario at all.

Well VehicleBurglar, while the identity of the color involved with the Warp Train incident can't be confirmed, it is practically undeniable by now that Roland is the Black Silence.
The Rumanos Cartel got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up pretty hard by Roland, from what we can gather from the realization. He did that on his own considering that Astolfo seemingly arrived only after his deed with the intention of convincing him to stop rampaging.
Meanwhile the Thumb reception tell us of how the Rumanos Cartel got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by the Black Silence, so hard, that they couldn't recuperate even after a long time, resulting in their expulsion by the Sottocapo.

The Rumanos Cartel can't really get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ twice by Raging Roland AND the Black Silence without immediately ceasing to exist, hence they're both the same person. Roland even wears a uninspired black mask (I can only hope he will fix his fashion sense).

Not to mention the things Roland allegedly did according to the Rumanos Cartel goon, among which was him ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the Middle. The Middle, which happens to be one of the five fingers. Red Mist only managed 5 Index Proxies and 3 Messengers, Roland ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the Middle.

It's pretty easy to assume that he's the Black Silence rather than not, to be honest.

[Leviathan]

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(I can only hope he will fix his fashion sense).

You buffoon, you just doomed him to manifest his EGO in the Library and it'll be his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mask again.

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Not like there's an easy answer yet. But if any place is worth investigating, it's any statements he or other made about the Pianist, now i don't remember exactly, but either Roland lied a little about the events, or someone like Blue Boi (Argalia) mentioned a different take of events regarding the Pianist, it's all a bit foggy on what's true and what's false. Either way, someone has to be wrong/lying. Bit lazy to check myself, though.

I think Argalia was telling the truth, and Roland just twisted some details about his tragedy in order to try and keep Angela in the dark. If she realized Roland lost his wife to the pianist she'd be a lot more wary of him, especially after admitting she was the cause for it. He's lied before about his past, after all. And from what his realizations seem to show, his past isn't really being shown to everyone like Angela's as much as it's him reflecting on it and eventually coming to terms with his grief.