New Invitation thoughts [1.0.1.10]

[Grim Xzag]

As for usual, stick to discussing about the invitations (The Crying Children and the Big and Will be Bad Wolf). Thank you!

[Leviathan]

Originally posted by The Infomaniac:

Philip did nothing wrong. Also big and will be bad wolf is surprising tough for me. Don't know how everyone had a easy time with it.

Just stack feebles and he's basically harmless, in my experience. I also used Binding Arms for the reducing cost and Wolf's lack of blunt resistance on the second half.

[canyouseemenow]

I was worried there was a secret mechanic I was supposed to exploit but couldn't figure out to actually end the act to keep it from just repeating ad nauseum... and then it just... ended? What a fight tho

[bgammax]

Hoo boy that new reception was long. With 7? Phases going for it. Though I saved my EGO page for last and just skipped phase 7 entirely.

I kinda disliked the.. Discrepency between the three types of angels. Hearing effectively denying the ability to clash felt WAAAAY more dangerous than Seeing's passive that just.... Did nothing? I mean it hides added effects on pages, but it doesn't hide what page is being used or its rolls, which are what matters the most.
Speaking's immobilization sounded kinda unfair at first but since you come with such a massive die advantage it doesn't really mean much.

So I got through all the split phases pretty easily by just focusing down Hearing to stagger them, thus regaining my ability to clash and avoid damage

The combined form didn't really have a gimmick worth talking about. Just having some big attacks is all. Fine, just not very exciting.

[Skye]

I feel like Unstable Page of the Crying Children is a little weak in comparison to Rose's Object D'art or maybe even Salvador's, I could be wrong and maybe more cards are given than I'm aware of but a build revolved around Searing Sword, Feather Shield, Fierce charge just generally isn't all to good.

Is it just me who feels like it's a little lackluster for all the build up and everything it has?

[Armstrong Houston]

Originally posted by Leviathan:

But that's how people stack bleed on Hod's(+ the abno).

Burn doesn’t even come close to comparing to bleed. Burn is roughly 1.5x the inflicted value but bleed procs each time a combat dice is rolled. Phillip can proc bleed in the double digits meaning it has actual worth as a status effect and is something you actively want to inflict. Burn is nice as free damage if the card itself is good but the only burn card to recently come out(that I can recall) is Phillips exclusive 4 cost which I’m not super hot on.

[Chaos]

Seeing children is basically an addition minion since its mechanics doesnt really make things challenging as all the clash lose is mostly gonna be on the first die on any of the children's combat page
Unless they change it to any of the die in the combat page, it would be fine but it still wouldnt matter that much compared to Hearing

[algondir]

But still, I hope he comes back as a Crusader and we will use all our floors to stop him

[CarThief]

Well i must've missed a detail of some kind, that thing was meant to be Phillip? I should probably double-check that cutscene...

Atleast the fight was interesting, and absurdly long, but atleast not too insanely difficult (i'd imagine it will be a hurdle for a player on a regular playthrough once the game's complete, as they're less likely to be as decked-out/optimized as we are).

I got lucky with the page drop, but i'd imagine it's a low drop rate and a lot of people had to fight it 2-3 more times (that or savescum their books back) for the drop. If that is the case they should probably increase the page droprate since that is a LONG fight, and you can only use it once, anyway.

Page is pretty neat too, yet to try it but that's going straight into Malkuth's burn-floor, gonna have to take a break first (looooong fight). It even has that high-power attack Phillip uses in a earlier fight as exclusive, aparrantly.
Wolf was fun too, worked pretty well all-around, ironically a bit easier then the RRHM fight preceding it, or so it felt.

[Mastema]

I would assume the 3 angels and the towering one are distortions of Philip's manifested emotions, pent-up hatred and self loathing, twisting him upside down with a "helpful" hand from Pluto. As to the books, the chances were increased, from what i remember on first launch there was only one book after winning the fight, now it rewards you with 3 copies of it. Other than that, the page is nice, both visually and gimmicky. We shall see more of our boy Philip soon enough.

[BladeSaint]

Yeah who’d have thought fighting the real wolf would be easier than fighting red riding hooded mercenary. Truly, it is an all around easier fight.

[Han]

Originally posted by Littaylor:

Yeah who’d have thought fighting the real wolf would be easier than fighting red riding hooded mercenary. Truly, it is an all around easier fight.

Well it make sense to me. The wolf of her nightmare is a distorted ruthless version of "will be bad wolf" always in phase 2. Will be bad wolf let you take down around 70%~ of it's hp before going back to what it was in Red hood fight

Plus we all know the wolf doesn't want to be bad but he has to

[Raviel]

Originally posted by Skyrimkillereh:

I feel like Unstable Page of the Crying Children is a little weak in comparison to Rose's Object D'art or maybe even Salvador's, I could be wrong and maybe more cards are given than I'm aware of but a build revolved around Searing Sword, Feather Shield, Fierce charge just generally isn't all to good.

Is it just me who feels like it's a little lackluster for all the build up and everything it has?

It inflicts burn innately so I opted to just use page draw, light restore, and index pages. You end up getting a reasonably high offense dice boost on burning targets that way. I imagine once we get even better pages, Philip's page will be one of the most reliable ways to get a +1 boost to offense die.

One way I could see is if they changed the passive to +1 on all cards when clashing with a burning target. That might make the page too OP though.

[dytong]

I've tried pairing Salvador w/ Phillip on the same floor - it works really well since you burn someone with Salvador, then go ham with whatever you want with Phillip.
Story related, I'm really interested in Pluto and his abilities/magic now that he's been fully revealed as Yesterday's Promise.

[Finikksu]

Many people belittle Seeing boy's passive. Is supposed to hide which clash you're supposed to win to fatal everyone's weakness.
Yeah, is weaker than the others, but that is it's function.

Beat the Angels second try (First try My computer shut off right after a succesful BoD, I was salty. But second I went with the same team with no changes and only lost 1 nugget)

Wolf Fight was easy on my end. I had the team pretty well built, and Prey and Crimson Scar made it easier.
He didnt even get to eat any of the nuggets (he rolled a 4 due to weaken and paralisis)
About his cards tho, I can see Instincs and Claw being useful, but Role is not (for now at least)

[Yhune]

I just noticed that we didn't get all of philips cards, resentful eventide, stigmatize and regret come to mind.