Library Of Ruina

Library Of Ruina

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Zhantos Aug 29, 2020 @ 1:36pm
My Theory on Roland (SPOILERS)
So im creating this to share my theory on roland backstory. You guys can share yours too.

If you guys find a hole in my theory please comment.

- Roland was apparently a grade 1 fixer, puting him in color fixer territory.

- Roland says during a conversation with malkuth that his eyes are fixed in the past.

- During a conversation with angela, roland talks about the death of his wife in a nonchalantly way making it a little bit suspitions.

- During Musicians of Bremen cutscene meow says that alot of fixers died before black silence arived and killed the pianist

- Roland wife died during a incident in his district while he was away doing a random? job


So here's my theory: Roland is the black silence (he uses a suit that is black representing his color and in the intro scene he talks about a ''purple tear'' that i think is another color which makes me think more that he is a color) and his wife died during the pianist incident or she was the pianist (who knows?) and because he was away from home that explains why the black silence that killed the pianist didnt show up faster. He still hasnt come to accepet his wife death thats way he's always fixed in the past like he said to malkuth. About his demotion i think he did some crazy ♥♥♥♥ to vent after his wife died
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BladeSaint Aug 29, 2020 @ 1:55pm 
Your theory sounds like it's plausible, but I'd like you to take one extra cutscene into consideration: the conversation between Angela and Roland in the Dawn Office post battle, in which he talks about how Salvador didn't recognize him. Granted, Salvador couldn't possibly remember every fixer he comes across in his life, but he should definitely be able to recognize a colored fixer on sight.

That aside, I do like this theory a lot. Geburah not meeting Roland out on the field also serves to hint at the possibility that Roland is more than he seems. Geburah also believing that Roland has an alternate purpose for coming to the library is also hinting at something greater as well.

To add onto your theory, I think there's a high chance that Purple Tear is the dimensional traveler buddy Roland mentioned he had, and he struck a deal with him/her in order to accomplish something in exchange for helping Angela with the library (maybe the resurrection of his wife?)

I also do find it suspicious that, unlike the time with the Red Mist and the Blue Reverb, Roland doesn't talk about the Black Silence at all.
Last edited by BladeSaint; Aug 29, 2020 @ 7:31pm
Zhantos Aug 29, 2020 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by Littaylor:
Your theory sounds like it's plausible, but I'd like you to take one extra cutscene into consideration: the conversation between Angela and Roland in the Dawn Office post battle, in which he talks about how Salvador didn't recognize him. Granted, Salvador couldn't possibly remember every fixer he comes across in his life, but he should definitely be able to recognize a colored fixer on sight.

yeah i agree with that but i mean in a world with some crazy stuff maybe a plastic surgery could solve that? i dont know but thats a good point
the fun police Aug 29, 2020 @ 4:46pm 
even crazier theory: roland is just a normal fixer.
Grim Xzag Aug 29, 2020 @ 4:48pm 
Does Salvador ever recognize the Red Mist?
BladeSaint Aug 29, 2020 @ 5:04pm 
I don't believe Red Mist and Salvador have ever met, and even if they did, Geburah's floor was not unlocked before the dawn office anyway so we won't ever know
Drake360 Aug 29, 2020 @ 7:05pm 
It's been confirmed by a short story from the Devs that the Pianist is a normal guy who dedicated his life to the piano only to end up washed up playing in a bar. He awakened in wrath the moment a drunkard shoved him aside and played better than he ever could as if it were second nature. Link was on the wiki when it was discussed a few weeks back, so I'm not able to find it any time soon. Yeah it's not that important in the grand scheme of this thread but I just wanted to clear the air about that.

-I see Roland as the Black Midnight, an information-oriented fixer who analyzes the situation and finds weaknesses in his enemies. It's why he can worm his way into other people's situations and pasts so easily, and why the Musicians specifically mentioned the Pianist's hands being cut off. He saw the effects and cause and acted accordingly to defeat the threat.

-His wife was most likely the fixer who was torn apart so "beautifully". It was most likely because of her power as a fixer, as well as the fact there were two lives being torn apart into notes.

-He fell to nothing, lost all his equipment and possibly modifications, after probably starting to suck at his job if he even tried. Who wouldn't after seeing the ones you loved in this horrible world be so terribly torn apart? So now he's in a melancholic depression, forced into a new job out of the blue by an old colleague, another manipulation in the web.
Finikksu Aug 29, 2020 @ 8:26pm 
My random thoughts. Bear with me if seem too random at first.

Long ago in tumblr back when the Movie Frozen was released, there was a post of someone who comented on how the movie was based in the Ice Queen, but didnt have a Mirror that was important to the story. Only after a while realize that Hans, the villain, was himself the mirror, in every scene he was interacting with someone, he reflected how the other was acting, or reinforcing how they felt at the moment.

While watching Roland interactions with the Sephirah, I notice he doesnt really act consistent with each one, he act different with every one, at first you shrug it off like he simply adapts, but as the Floors have been realize I see in every new scene he act more and more like that particular Sephirah, or reinforce how they see themself (or how they want to be).

Those who remember the abno card pre-abno battle will remember that 2 of the Abnos we saw in those cards in Keter were The Ice Queen, and you guessed it, the Mirror of Adjustement.
While Keter is mostly Carmen/Angela's floor, I think it also represents Roland as he is now it's Patron Librarian.

From Pinnochio's Cards.
"All the child could do was 'learn' by observing others and mimicking their behavior. And that was the problem."
"People lie all the time. Why is that a bad thing?"

"They said it wasn't for themselves. They were lying for the good of everyone…"
Sebee Aug 29, 2020 @ 8:54pm 
I thought something similar to this, but thought that the Color fixers represented the different damage types from Lob Corp. Purple tear was mention and that pretty much ruined my theory. Still though, someone commented on the thread that if there is a "White" fixer, then it could possibly be Roland's wife. She had white hair, and Roland claims that she was stronger than him. IF he's the Black Silence, then she was most likely the White Noise.
Araders Aug 30, 2020 @ 7:57am 
My theory: Roland is a spy or saboteur. The main detail that haunts me is that in the trailer for the game, Roland appears as a card, while not some random card, but the Joker. And it is played not by Angela as her ally, but by her opponents. This suggests that:

- Roland can be a spin or a saboteur who will have to stop or interfere with Angela at a crucial moment. Perhaps someone wants to use her actions for their own purposes.

- If Roland is really a stranger, then this explains his getting into the library, perhaps he was thrown there on purpose. This means that behind his actions is someone who has enormous power and a lot of power.

- There is also a possibility that he was teleported to the library by someone like "Head" to study the phenomenon of distortion. I think it is difficult to deny the connection in the simultaneous appearance of the library, the disappearance of the corporation "L" and the appearance of distortions and anomalies.

- The latest theory is that Roland may be a specialist in infiltration and adaptation, there is a possibility that he could be blackmailed or kept on a leash against his will. That is, he may be an innocent fixer who was attracted to this robot without his consent. Perhaps there could be a turning point in the finale and Roland will come over to our side. Also, this theory can be combined with all of the above.

At the very beginning of the game, Angela threatened to "turn him into a book and find out everything herself", but then she gave up this idea. Perhaps Roland is an instilled individual pursuing his own goals, or perhaps he is our worst enemy. The main "hotbed of doubt" that haunts me is precisely the same scene from the trailer described above. Maybe she doesn't mean anything?
algondir Aug 30, 2020 @ 8:26am 
Yes, he is a villain of this game, but his dark goals far beyond our expectation, our feeble mortal's mind can only barely understand his intentions, but after a long time of research I understand only one thing:
Turning Library into hamham pangpang branch facility
Milk4Khorneflakes Aug 30, 2020 @ 8:43am 
In Lobotomy-3 game (Cooking simulator/management) "Hamburger bar of the end of the Universe", Ronald will be the main antagonist, and Sephiras will be line cooks.
Sebee Aug 30, 2020 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Milk4Khorneflakes:
In Lobotomy-3 game (Cooking simulator/management) "Hamburger bar of the end of the Universe", Ronald will be the main antagonist, and Sephiras will be line cooks.
All in order to find the one true burger
Arch-Knee Aug 30, 2020 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by Araders:
- If Roland is really a stranger, then this explains his getting into the library, perhaps he was thrown there on purpose. This means that behind his actions is someone who has enormous power and a lot of power.
He did mention something about the Purple Tear and having to trust her before Angela came in and took his limbs, and from what has been explained since, only exceptional Fixers can get a color from the Hana Association.
I suspected the same thing about Roland. What interests me the most is how he got into the library without an invitation, I think everyone glossed over that.
CarThief Aug 31, 2020 @ 1:18am 
Well to be fair, the library is basically friggin' magic, and it's able to throw invitations to desired targets, explicitely when they truly desire to go to the library (reasons varying from making use of a distressing situation to just pure temptation), so it probably has some future-telling abilities or something on when the ideal time is to send a invitation, and to whom, ensuring they all eventually get signed and used.

To that extent, its not suprising the library could perhaps forcefully "invite" someone like Ronald to perhaps be Angela's emotional crutch/support, and act as guide to the city's many quirks.
That or its more of Ayin's machinations/plans and possibly a reincarnation or disguise, who knows? Friggin' magic, after all.
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