Chapter 17's green portal room feels too much like a cheap "gotcha"

[Crabs Johnson]

I spent an hour thinking that the green portal could only be placed in the green portal room, as why else would the room be there? Until I found out that the solution (which is in the trailer) is to bypass that room at the beginning by leaving the room via blue/orange portals thus allowing you to place green portals outside. After that the room is entirely useless and is just there for misdirection, and I solved the puzzle pretty quickly. There was no "aha!" moment for like the other levels, it was closer to a "seriously?" moment lol. I love the other levels but this one relied way too much on misdirection as the room serves no purpose other than the stretch out the puzzle's length before the "real" puzzle begins.

[PainkilleR]

Well, that room was a rather cool "gotcha" moment imo... There is a more serious problem with that particular test chamber though: you can activate the time portal by going to the exit door forcefield.

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

Originally posted by PainkilleR:

Well, that room was a rather cool "gotcha" moment imo... There is a more serious problem with that particular test chamber though: you can activate the time portal by going to the exit door forcefield.

... i thought this was the solution

[hamsterofdeath]

i thought this was a "bug" in the design

[CosmicOdeum]

Originally posted by Nito&TheFunkyBunch:

Originally posted by PainkilleR:

Well, that room was a rather cool "gotcha" moment imo... There is a more serious problem with that particular test chamber though: you can activate the time portal by going to the exit door forcefield.

... i thought this was the solution

Me too. So I guess there's two solutions here, and both of them feel hacky.

[ragnarok]

I had a (theoretically) beautiful solution with the Time Portal in the green room.

Present: Portal Blue on the slope at the opposite where you step onto the bumper to catch the cube. Portal Orange in the small room opposite of the Time-Portal.

Future: Portal orange on the opposite of the time-portal, Portal blue on the slope on the opposite of the exit.

Plan: Put cube on the bumper before the exit in the present. Step onto the other bumper and get catapulted through the little room, all the way to the future exit (don't forget to catch the cube in the future).

The combination looked fine, but the physics engine killed my momentum as soon as I entered the little room.

I looked for hints on the internet and was quite disappointed to find that either the whole room looks like bad communication (I didn't expect the green force-field to work this way) and/or all the the solutions look like a hack.

[aamo]

Originally posted by ragnarok:

I had a (theoretically) beautiful solution with the Time Portal in the green room.

Present: Portal Blue on the slope at the opposite where you step onto the bumper to catch the cube. Portal Orange in the small room opposite of the Time-Portal.

Future: Portal orange on the opposite of the time-portal, Portal blue on the slope on the opposite of the exit.

Plan: Put cube on the bumper before the exit in the present. Step onto the other bumper and get catapulted through the little room, all the way to the future exit (don't forget to catch the cube in the future).

The combination looked fine, but the physics engine killed my momentum as soon as I entered the little room.

I looked for hints on the internet and was quite disappointed to find that either the whole room looks like bad communication (I didn't expect the green force-field to work this way) and/or all the the solutions look like a hack.

This is exactly what I tried for at least a solid half hour before giving up and just shooting portals everywhere until suddenly the green portal shoot out outside the little green room and I was like Oh...

[Vectorspace]

Originally posted by ragnarok:

I had a (theoretically) beautiful solution with the Time Portal in the green room.

Present: Portal Blue on the slope at the opposite where you step onto the bumper to catch the cube. Portal Orange in the small room opposite of the Time-Portal.

Future: Portal orange on the opposite of the time-portal, Portal blue on the slope on the opposite of the exit.

Plan: Put cube on the bumper before the exit in the present. Step onto the other bumper and get catapulted through the little room, all the way to the future exit (don't forget to catch the cube in the future).

The combination looked fine, but the physics engine killed my momentum as soon as I entered the little room.

I looked for hints on the internet and was quite disappointed to find that either the whole room looks like bad communication (I didn't expect the green force-field to work this way) and/or all the the solutions look like a hack.

I also tried this before I had to Google the answer. You don't fly through the portals at the right angle or speed, so you clip the edge slightly you enter the green room, that kills your momentum.

The game definitely needs to train you more on the green forcefield in order for this chamber to be fair when a first time player reaches it.

Though to be fair I feel it's a weird puzzle element anyway - a little trick to unlock the time portal, in this chamber only.

[PolishLine]

it is horrible level

[Bowiebase]

Originally posted by ragnarok:

I had a (theoretically) beautiful solution with the Time Portal in the green room.

Present: Portal Blue on the slope at the opposite where you step onto the bumper to catch the cube. Portal Orange in the small room opposite of the Time-Portal.

Future: Portal orange on the opposite of the time-portal, Portal blue on the slope on the opposite of the exit.

Plan: Put cube on the bumper before the exit in the present. Step onto the other bumper and get catapulted through the little room, all the way to the future exit (don't forget to catch the cube in the future).

The combination looked fine, but the physics engine killed my momentum as soon as I entered the little room.

I looked for hints on the internet and was quite disappointed to find that either the whole room looks like bad communication (I didn't expect the green force-field to work this way) and/or all the the solutions look like a hack.

I literally did this and it worked, you just have to jump as u enter the middle room to keep your momentum,

[Eomund_01]

Same. I took the future cube to the past, placed portals in the small green portal room in the future and past, put a portal on the angled panel in the past opposite the faith plate, and another in the future opposite the exit. I put the time portal and past portal in the green portal room at max height, and the other portal in that room in the future at minimum height. In the past, I picked up the future cube, stepped on the faith plate and ducked. I sailed through the small green portal room without touching the floor and directly to the exit.

[ragnarok]

Originally posted by Bowiebase:

I literally did this and it worked, you just have to jump as u enter the middle room to keep your momentum,

Took me quite some tries but it's possible. Still feels like using a glitch.
Would probably be easier if the room was just a tiny bit higher...

[BurningCakeDoesAche]

people still discussing over this lol