Pricing question...

[Stenleh44]

When i comes to pricing the highest price is always one particular location on the map. For example Elmcreek....is gold crest valley. Western wilds is Train yard. etc.

Is is jut these particular maps or does this happen with all maps?

I really wished the highest price would randomize locations.

What you think?

Thanks

[chrisasnyder]

it does randomize. Goldcrest Valley is always more because you need to factor in the cost of renting the train for delivery. Unless you can fill a couple of cars worth of crop, it may not be the best overall sale price. Even then it still may not be the best price.

Also, take a look at the mod Sell Price Trigger. It helps tracking the year to year best prices.

[Randy]

Salepoints have settings for prices. Some mappers custom make them for their maps, others just use the "default" values.
But i think it would take a mod to do the same "random" pricing a bit like seasons does it, and not just the set price and then +/- x-amount % in deviation.

[Moose]

Western Wilds maxes the train yard because auto-unload is disabled. You have to engineer your own solutions: augers, etc. The premium is pretty nice; 30% or so. Early in the game, unloading honey, furniture, and eggs by hand there is well worth it. Later on it's less.

I also use the Sell Price Trigger mod. It's very flexible and helps a lot when you get busy with chores.

[Stenleh44]

Thanks all

[margalus]

Originally posted by chrisasnyder:

it does randomize. Goldcrest Valley is always more because you need to factor in the cost of renting the train for delivery. Unless you can fill a couple of cars worth of crop, it may not be the best overall sale price. Even then it still may not be the best price.

Also, take a look at the mod Sell Price Trigger. It helps tracking the year to year best prices.

The cost of renting the train is meaningless. It costs $50 to rent the train.

[A-Train]

In my estimation, anything that requires you to rent the train is perhaps not the best option, unless you have a LOT to sell... Simply because it's going to cost more due to the train.

And in all reality, the game has NO business having players control the train. This ain't Train Simulator or Derail Valley. Farmers may drive trucks, but they darn sure don't run trains.

But it varies from map to map. And... depending on how much you sell at a given location, their price may drop because of supply and demand. I've seen this on Frankenmuth.

[margalus]

Originally posted by A-Train:

In my estimation, anything that requires you to rent the train is perhaps not the best option, unless you have a LOT to sell... Simply because it's going to cost more due to the train.

And in all reality, the game has NO business having players control the train. This ain't Train Simulator or Derail Valley. Farmers may drive trucks, but they darn sure don't run trains.

But it varies from map to map. And... depending on how much you sell at a given location, their price may drop because of supply and demand. I've seen this on Frankenmuth.

$50 for train rental is nothing. Renting the train is always the best option

[Stenleh44]

Originally posted by margalus:

Originally posted by A-Train:

In my estimation, anything that requires you to rent the train is perhaps not the best option, unless you have a LOT to sell... Simply because it's going to cost more due to the train.

And in all reality, the game has NO business having players control the train. This ain't Train Simulator or Derail Valley. Farmers may drive trucks, but they darn sure don't run trains.

But it varies from map to map. And... depending on how much you sell at a given location, their price may drop because of supply and demand. I've seen this on Frankenmuth.

$50 for train rental is nothing. Renting the train is always the best option

I’m with you on this. Cost of renting train is negligible to sell a crop.

Just wish it wasn’t always the best price.

[FatLizard]

For me it is just simple maths ... if the price difference of the sales stations compared to the train (Gold Crest Valley) is significant, in relation to the quantity I can sell, the train repays itself.
For example, if I sell 10,000 liters of soy, the difference must be at least 100 (whatever currency used) because this will amortize the cost of the train rental. Obviously more quantity you sell (over the 10,000 liters) the more you will earn having already cushioned the cost of the train.

[margalus]

Originally posted by FatLizard:

For me it is just simple maths ... if the price difference of the sales stations compared to the train (Gold Crest Valley) is significant, in relation to the quantity I can sell, the train repays itself.
For example, if I sell 10,000 liters of soy, the difference must be at least 100 (whatever currency used) because this will amortize the cost of the train rental. Obviously more quantity you sell (over the 10,000 liters) the more you will earn having already cushioned the cost of the train.

Your math is way off. It's $50 for the whole train rental. $50 out of a few hundred thousand is nothing. If the price is even $1 more the train is better.

[FatLizard]

@margalus ... you are right if the train rental is only 50$ ... but for me is , and always has been 1.000 € /hr. (one thousand/hr.) ... I play on Hard Mode and without economy mods (except for the Better Contract Mod)... really don't know if the train rent may vary between Easy, Normal or Hard Mode.

[margalus]

Originally posted by FatLizard:

@margalus ... you are right if the train rental is only 50$ ... but for me is , and always has been 1.000 € /hr. (one thousand/hr.) ... I play on Hard Mode and without economy mods (except for the Better Contract Mod)... really don't know if the train rent may vary between Easy, Normal or Hard Mode.

It's 1000 an hour, yes. But you only have it for a couple of minutes. Look at the actual charge and you will see you only pay for the 2 or 3 minutes it takes to load it. $50.

[FatLizard]

Originally posted by margalus:

Originally posted by FatLizard:

@margalus ... you are right if the train rental is only 50$ ... but for me is , and always has been 1.000 € /hr. (one thousand/hr.) ... I play on Hard Mode and without economy mods (except for the Better Contract Mod)... really don't know if the train rent may vary between Easy, Normal or Hard Mode.

It's 1000 an hour, yes. But you only have it for a couple of minutes. Look at the actual charge and you will see you only pay for the 2 or 3 minutes it takes to load it. $50.

Oh ... good to know, I thought that the hourly cost was charged regardless of the temporal use ... everyday I learn something new , thanks @margalus. :)
After all Giants gives really poor instructions on their games.

[935turbo]

Originally posted by chrisasnyder:

it does randomize. Goldcrest Valley is always more because you need to factor in the cost of renting the train for delivery. Unless you can fill a couple of cars worth of crop, it may not be the best overall sale price. Even then it still may not be the best price.

Also, take a look at the mod Sell Price Trigger. It helps tracking the year to year best prices.

Every sellPoint has a priceScale for each fillType. The price Scale is usually 1.0 but is 1.15 for the sellingStationTrain thus giving a bonus for using the train system. You can adjust the priceScale yourself in the .xml file. You can also globally adjust the price per liter of a fillType in the fillType.xml file.