Grapes Thoughts

[Verios44]

I finally setup a small grape viniard and here are my thoughts on the whole process.

Pros, thoughts

1. All the listed equipment for grapes combined is really useful. That entire page which shows recommended equipment was a godscend.

2. At first, I thought it would be miserable. I was told its a totally manual process.

3. The hardest part is actually placing the vines themselves. Its a little tricky to alogn the rows of vines straight.

4. The small equipment makes total sense after you have to use it. Btw you can have both the mulcher and cultivator attached at once and it will save you alot of time. The fertilizer for it, I like its animation.

5. Harvesting machine for grapes is quite cool to actually use

The cons

1. The hitboxes with the vine posts is finicky. You have to be very careful. It can cause your tractor or harvester to get stuck over the slightest wrong move.

[Simeta]

I enjoy doing grapes, its probably not the most rewarding tasks but i still enjoy putting some music on and doing what needs to be done. But once I hit one post and loose my rhythm then I hit every post possible it seems haha.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Simeta:

I enjoy doing grapes, its probably not the most rewarding tasks but i still enjoy putting some music on and doing what needs to be done. But once I hit one post and loose my rhythm then I hit every post possible it seems haha.

Im actually thinking of expanding mine to the whole field. Only have 5 rows for now. Or half and half olives/grapes on same field? Dunno.

Yes it is annoying when the tractor hits a post out of nowhere and gets screwy :)

[Simeta]

I have half a medium field full, at a guess without loading up and counting I would say i have 10 - 12 rows.

[Eightball]

One thing that would be great would be the addition of some type of 'surveying' tool that let me apply a snappable grid to a field when used so I could more easily place my vines in nice rows (and orchard trees if and when they come).

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Eightball:

One thing that would be great would be the addition of some type of 'surveying' tool that let me apply a snappable grid to a field when used so I could more easily place my vines in nice rows (and orchard trees if and when they come).

Speaking of orchards, would love to see this system expanded with apples, cherries, maybe even nuts like peanuts, cashews, etc.

[Simeta]

Originally posted by Eightball:

One thing that would be great would be the addition of some type of 'surveying' tool that let me apply a snappable grid to a field when used so I could more easily place my vines in nice rows (and orchard trees if and when they come).

I am hoping for a mod someday that allows this.

[Legion]

I like the new grapes and olives but they need to have an option to place multiple rows at once, that way the spacing and lineup is perfect, or have a auto snap option or something.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Legion:

I like the new grapes and olives but they need to have an option to place multiple rows at once, that way the spacing and lineup is perfect, or have a auto snap option or something.

I used this video to learn the ways of the vine, and in it the author mentions the poles can snap. Havent got it to work for me personally.

https://youtu.be/9H51bfuz0-8

[Simeta]

The way i did it was to do the first row on the edge of a field so i know the line i straight, then you just keep moving the next row as close as you can until the pole disappears. Move back slightly and place it, do same process at the end of the field. Downside is this process takes ages haha.

[Eightball]

@Simeta That is probably the most 'accurate' way to do it, but at least you only need to do it once.

[Hawkeye]

I'm starting to wonder if grapes are even worth it, or if this crappy economy is consistent everywhere. My vineyard cost us $825k to set up, including $250k for the vines, $80k for the plot of land, $80 for the grape processing unit and $80k for the farmer's market. The rest of that is invested in the harvester and other grape-specific machinery.

We just completed our first harvest. We had carefully done everything right, 100% fertilized, mulched, cultivated, etc and were excited to finally make a sale. We processed everything into grape juice and then sold to the farmer's market in November at a pretty high rate. We ended up selling 21 pallets for $30k. At that rate, we'll be 28 years before we break even on our investment, NOT including fuel, fertilizer, repair/repaint fees, etc. Is this consistent with every other method?

[KingOfFriedChicken]

I find grapes a good Me crop while workers do the other crops i will even make them into rasins or juice and push the into the market i placed right across the way lol BUT NEVER CEREAL!!! My math says cereal is a full profit loss all around lol

[Simeta]

Originally posted by Hawkeye:

I'm starting to wonder if grapes are even worth it, or if this crappy economy is consistent everywhere. My vineyard cost us $825k to set up, including $250k for the vines, $80k for the plot of land, $80 for the grape processing unit and $80k for the farmer's market. The rest of that is invested in the harvester and other grape-specific machinery.

We just completed our first harvest. We had carefully done everything right, 100% fertilized, mulched, cultivated, etc and were excited to finally make a sale. We processed everything into grape juice and then sold to the farmer's market in November at a pretty high rate. We ended up selling 21 pallets for $30k. At that rate, we'll be 28 years before we break even on our investment, NOT including fuel, fertilizer, repair/repaint fees, etc. Is this consistent with every other method?

Olives are better for just selling but while grapes are not worth it for one harvest. You only need to plant them once as it regrows so over time it will pay for it's self. So it depends if you want to spend the time preparing them each harvest.

[Verios44]

Originally posted by Hawkeye:

I'm starting to wonder if grapes are even worth it, or if this crappy economy is consistent everywhere. My vineyard cost us $825k to set up, including $250k for the vines, $80k for the plot of land, $80 for the grape processing unit and $80k for the farmer's market. The rest of that is invested in the harvester and other grape-specific machinery.

We just completed our first harvest. We had carefully done everything right, 100% fertilized, mulched, cultivated, etc and were excited to finally make a sale. We processed everything into grape juice and then sold to the farmer's market in November at a pretty high rate. We ended up selling 21 pallets for $30k. At that rate, we'll be 28 years before we break even on our investment, NOT including fuel, fertilizer, repair/repaint fees, etc. Is this consistent with every other method?

did you sell at the right place? In my game its showing grape juice with a price of

farm shop: 3351

raisins

farm shop: 2911

olive oil

farm shop: 5495

rough math says you should have doubled what you sold 21 pallets for of grape juice.

[Hawkeye]

Originally posted by Simeta:

Originally posted by Hawkeye:

I'm starting to wonder if grapes are even worth it, or if this crappy economy is consistent everywhere. My vineyard cost us $825k to set up, including $250k for the vines, $80k for the plot of land, $80 for the grape processing unit and $80k for the farmer's market. The rest of that is invested in the harvester and other grape-specific machinery.

We just completed our first harvest. We had carefully done everything right, 100% fertilized, mulched, cultivated, etc and were excited to finally make a sale. We processed everything into grape juice and then sold to the farmer's market in November at a pretty high rate. We ended up selling 21 pallets for $30k. At that rate, we'll be 28 years before we break even on our investment, NOT including fuel, fertilizer, repair/repaint fees, etc. Is this consistent with every other method?

Olives are better for just selling but while grapes are not worth it for one harvest. You only need to plant them once as it regrows so over time it will pay for it's self. So it depends if you want to spend the time preparing them each harvest.

Sure, you plant them once, but it takes you 10 years to recover that planting cost. And that's just for the vines. As stated above, it takes 28 years to break even on my small little vineyard. That seems excessive to me.