Getting tired of the lack of real progress in this game series.

[Neon Samurai]

Honestly I am getting tired of the overall lack of improvement with this series, and some of their business practices (like for example how players that buy the game before the platinum edition get to pay extra for the upgrade over players buying the full platinum edition, this just encourages people to wait till platinum).

They still have not added the things the community have been asking for years now: Like land deformation when plowing, or working computers for the GPS & the tractor & equipment, deeper fertilization system, heck even basic stuff like adding more crops that existing equipment can harvest (like onions, carrots, red beets, other grains etc).

Every two years they sell practically the same game with some graphic improvements, some minor additions. a new map or 2, and maybe incorporate a popular mod, add some new equipment, and drop a lot of old equipment and the old maps.

I think they need to reconsider their business model. Maybe look at how train sims tend to do things, sell the base game once, and then keep selling quality DLC (vehicle/equipment packs, and maps) while constantly improving the base game (and DLC). The key to this model is to offer DLC that are superior to player mods. This way the game continues to expand as the available equipment selection gets larger, while still having access to the older stuff.

[Yukari]

I'm really only missing GPS properly implented in the game.
But at least we have coordinates and direction degrees for precision.

And the workers needs a lot of work still.

[lefty1117]

The TrainSIm model for DLC is not a bad one as long as they continue to support the older DLC in newer versions of the game. This is the case with TrainSim World 2 iirc. Also, it's not like this is a yearly release is it? I think 3-4 years between main releases with quality (and not cheap) DLC in the gaps is just fine. Especially if DLC works with newer versions.

[Rusty_S]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gruesome Puglet:

I've played this title since FS 2013 and I can clearly see that the community is always divided as soon as new iteration of this title is released. Die-hard fans will always defend this title to the point of annoyance.

I would gladly have a constructive conversation with a fan of the title (like myself) not with the fanboy.

From my personal experience I can argue that FS22 has improved its "landscaping" feature.

FS22

1. You can't pick the brush hardness.
2. Place-able buildings destroying the terrain to the point of no return.
3. No lock to the grid. You can't make a straight road.
4. Edges can hardly be softened. In some cases at all.
5. You can't buy all the land. So, if you place the building too close to the main road it will destroy the terrain and the texture irreversibly.
6. The brush "colour" gets in the way to the point that I don't see what I'm doing.
7. Levelling is just a pain, if non-existent.

Those are few points so far, and if anyone can actually prove me wrong then I'm happy to take that life lesson and admit that I was wrong. But, I mean I want someone to actually prove it. Not only talk bull c...ap about it in the comments.

In their live streams they stated that you can undo terrain changes? Is this not true?

I havent bought FS22 as I have FS19 and only got it last year on sale. There are a few questions I have pertaining to FS22 that no one seems to be able to answer such as the following.

1) Can the mower cut brush now or do you still have to go through the landscaping tool to remove it? In real life mowers will cut brush and its one thing I hate about FS19 that I cant simply run over brush with my mower to get rid of it.

2) Can junk be removed if there is even junk? Thats another thing I hate in FS19 some plots of land in the official maps have junk that is an eye sore. There is one that has junk cars and trash that you cant remove any way without mods.

3) Can existing objects be removed? In FS19 some plots like the plot I like starting off with has a huge water tank for decoration that I want to remove but there is no way to sell it to remove it and it serves no purpose as you cant fill it or get water from it.

I probably have some more questions about if FS22 has made improvements over FS19 but those are the big ones that get me currently.

[Rusty_S]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Darkspear:

Giants keep adding stuff to the game that used to be mods, which is a huge improvement and a sign they listen to community.

If you really wanna talk about rehashing same stuff every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ year, take a look at Battlefield, Call of duty and Fifa

I agree, games like this will eventually get an upgrade with a new title some times it wont be a huge change but just to get a fresh build of the game on the same engine. They do it with Car Mechanic Simulator, they said their last one was to be their last and they would only update that one and now this year they released Car Mechanic Simulator 22. Only one I found that doesnt do that is Train Simulator, they update it but they update the base game so if you buy it you always get the latest Train Simulator at no cost. Would be cool if companies would do this more and just replace the previous title with the new title where you wont have to constantly keep buying new iterations.

Draw back of doing that how ever is if it was done in this game youll most likely have to buy the tractors to add them to game like Train Simulator does with the locomotives.

[Rusty_S]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BR1 Overlord-Actual:

They listened and we got a ton of stuff we asked for actually. There's some bugs and some things I wish it had, but I did my research before purchasing (like an adult) decided I would like it, and I liked it, and Im not crying about the things I dont like.

Thats what I am doing myself as well. I havent bought FS22 yet, only got FS19 last year on sale so I have FS19 to keep me busy till FS22 goes on sale. But I do hear some conflicting information to some questions I have and some questions I have remain unanswered even when presented to live streamers that actually are playing the game.

[elevenfourteen]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

In their live streams they stated that you can undo terrain changes? Is this not true?

Sort of an undo will be there with the next patch. Not an actual undo, but better thatn nothing. Can't tell much about this, but you'll see pretty soon.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

1) Can the mower cut brush now or do you still have to go through the landscaping tool to remove it? In real life mowers will cut brush and its one thing I hate about FS19 that I cant simply run over brush with my mower to get rid of it.

There are mulchers, that should be able to do it. I don't know about all the brushes, but I placed some bushes and they were removed when driving over them with a mulcher.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

2) Can junk be removed if there is even junk? Thats another thing I hate in FS19 some plots of land in the official maps have junk that is an eye sore. There is one that has junk cars and trash that you cant remove any way without mods.

Didn't see any chunk like on the US map Ravenport.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

3) Can existing objects be removed? In FS19 some plots like the plot I like starting off with has a huge water tank for decoration that I want to remove but there is no way to sell it to remove it and it serves no purpose as you cant fill it or get water from it.

Existing objects are map objects. They are there and cannot removed generally. There is one area for a farm and there are no objects that cannot be sold except of the one stone on Erlengrat.

[[CgC] Prophet]

Not sure what you expected... So far I am very happy with FS22. Major step up from FS19 in many aspects. And as the modders catch up things will only get better.

[MikeSenzanome]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CgC Prophet:

Not sure what you expected... So far I am very happy with FS22. Major step up from FS19 in many aspects. And as the modders catch up things will only get better.

So bare minimum from Giants and modders that fill the gaps. Sounds fair for 40$

[Cpt.Crunch]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von CgC Prophet:

Not sure what you expected... So far I am very happy with FS22. Major step up from FS19 in many aspects. And as the modders catch up things will only get better.

Nothing major about FS22... But modders will safe FS as always

[Rusty_S]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von elevenfourteen:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

In their live streams they stated that you can undo terrain changes? Is this not true?

Sort of an undo will be there with the next patch. Not an actual undo, but better thatn nothing. Can't tell much about this, but you'll see pretty soon.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

1) Can the mower cut brush now or do you still have to go through the landscaping tool to remove it? In real life mowers will cut brush and its one thing I hate about FS19 that I cant simply run over brush with my mower to get rid of it.

There are mulchers, that should be able to do it. I don't know about all the brushes, but I placed some bushes and they were removed when driving over them with a mulcher.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

2) Can junk be removed if there is even junk? Thats another thing I hate in FS19 some plots of land in the official maps have junk that is an eye sore. There is one that has junk cars and trash that you cant remove any way without mods.

Didn't see any chunk like on the US map Ravenport.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rusty_S:

3) Can existing objects be removed? In FS19 some plots like the plot I like starting off with has a huge water tank for decoration that I want to remove but there is no way to sell it to remove it and it serves no purpose as you cant fill it or get water from it.

Existing objects are map objects. They are there and cannot removed generally. There is one area for a farm and there are no objects that cannot be sold except of the one stone on Erlengrat.

On ravenport if you go to the grouping of small fields on the lower right of the map, the area you spawn overlooking there is a fenced off area with dirt roads on both sides of with some trees. There is junk there like washing machines couches, trash bags, a junked car like you can find in the junkyard, etc. I tried removing the stuff as I wanted to build that into a nice farm but with that junk right there along the main paths just screamed trashy instead of classy.

[Hunter451]

If this game effects your Life and Mental state that much you should really see a Doctor.