GPS - someone ??

[k2swirus]

hey does anyone know if GPS is going to be built into the game. or are we having to wait for mods again. i think it should have been built into the game a long time ago, but what to do

[elevenfourteen]

GPS will not be natively in FS22. They said this in today's Q&A after their stream.

[cwattyeso]

They also said during todays farm con stream in the section with Lars and Kenneth that GPS is not something Giants are adding to the game. It's on their plate for things they may add in future games, but it's not something they are working on now.

Have to say very disappointed with that. I'd sooner have a native GPS system in the game then the ability to customise number plates. I'd rather have a useful feature. I mean Farmer's have only been using GPS for 30 years, obviously such a new system must be hard to bring to the game.

[elevenfourteen]

We still have mod support. Sure, this is not the goto solution, if there is an overdue feature not in the game, At least we have a pretty big chance this will be a mod. It shouldn't be a mod though. Still kinda happy about the features they showed us so far. When they decided against GPS, they went the extra mile with sound design and lots of other stuff. It's a bummer, and I'd love to see GPS natively built in - no doubt, no excuse. I am not angry, though.

[BossmanSlim]

Thanks for the info and saving my money. Looks like the earliest I'll be purchasing is spring 2022 and then I can probably hold off until the platinum edition in fall 2022.

I would guess GPS has something to do with the console control scheme, so once again a console games holds up functionality for everyone else. Courseplay, Autodrive and GPS all use expanded controls which are already fairly maxed out on a controller.

[-MERC- Merc8ninE]

Originally posted by BossmanSlim:

Thanks for the info and saving my money. Looks like the earliest I'll be purchasing is spring 2022 and then I can probably hold off until the platinum edition in fall 2022.

I would guess GPS has something to do with the console control scheme, so once again a console games holds up functionality for everyone else. Courseplay, Autodrive and GPS all use expanded controls which are already fairly maxed out on a controller.

Wow, well thats absolute nonsense you just made up and ran with...i play farming sim with my PS4 controller and i have easily assigned the controls to my PS4 controller, i even use the virtual keyboard at times.

This a small thankfully irrelevant example of misinformation. "I would guess" followed by baseless conjecture.

[coolfarmer]

I'm really pissed that the GPS is not in the base game, COME ON Giants...

[Lionelli]

bunch of tractors worth a million and no gps wth

[BossmanSlim]

Originally posted by Merc8ninE:

Wow, well thats absolute nonsense you just made up and ran with...i play farming sim with my PS4 controller and i have easily assigned the controls to my PS4 controller, i even use the virtual keyboard at times.

This a small thankfully irrelevant example of misinformation. "I would guess" followed by baseless conjecture.

What's your theory why GPS isn't in the game if consoles aren't the reason?

The FS19 guidance steering mod is PC only and the common reasoning is that consoles don't allow script based mods, so that's why it is not available.

Giants has chosen to not put GPS in the base game for at least two versions (19 & 22), if not more despite it being a highly requested item. It's not like it's a heavy mod at 120kb that doesn't interact with anything other than the players occupied equipment.

This means that Giants has actively chosen to not put the functionality in the game. The potential rumored reasons that I have heard of:

- It makes the game too easy ... I don't believe as this is typically a cover for one of the items below. It's almost impossible to loose at Farm Sim as is. This is more so a cover when Helpers exist.
- The average player (one who doesn't read the forums, etc) would find it too hard to understand ... I don't believe as this is typically a cover for one of the items below
- Consoles don't have the hp to run it ... I don't believe this as consoles have the resources to support more complex DLCs
- Console controls are already close to maxed out ... believable, more so after playing the game with a steering wheel that has all the same buttons as the controller.
- Console UI limitations make it hard to implement in a clean manner ... believable, many games have sacrificed PC functionality at the alter of the console.
- Devs are too dumb to implement ... I don't believe
- Devs don't have resources to implement ... I don't believe as they pissed money down the drain on Farm Sim League.

[-MERC- Merc8ninE]

Originally posted by BossmanSlim:

Originally posted by Merc8ninE:

Wow, well thats absolute nonsense you just made up and ran with...i play farming sim with my PS4 controller and i have easily assigned the controls to my PS4 controller, i even use the virtual keyboard at times.

This a small thankfully irrelevant example of misinformation. "I would guess" followed by baseless conjecture.

What's your theory why GPS isn't in the game if consoles aren't the reason?

The FS19 guidance steering mod is PC only and the common reasoning is that consoles don't allow script based mods, so that's why it is not available.

Giants has chosen to not put GPS in the base game for at least two versions (19 & 22), if not more despite it being a highly requested item. It's not like it's a heavy mod at 120kb that doesn't interact with anything other than the players occupied equipment.

This means that Giants has actively chosen to not put the functionality in the game. The potential rumored reasons that I have heard of:

- It makes the game too easy ... I don't believe as this is typically a cover for one of the items below. It's almost impossible to loose at Farm Sim as is. This is more so a cover when Helpers exist.
- The average player (one who doesn't read the forums, etc) would find it too hard to understand ... I don't believe as this is typically a cover for one of the items below
- Consoles don't have the hp to run it ... I don't believe this as consoles have the resources to support more complex DLCs
- Console controls are already close to maxed out ... believable, more so after playing the game with a steering wheel that has all the same buttons as the controller.
- Console UI limitations make it hard to implement in a clean manner ... believable, many games have sacrificed PC functionality at the alter of the console.
- Devs are too dumb to implement ... I don't believe
- Devs don't have resources to implement ... I don't believe as they pissed money down the drain on Farm Sim League.

Dont have one bro. Theres infinite reasons. Theres loads of other mods that should be implemented but is not and will not with FS22.

Getting angry about something based on conjecture is dumb tho.

And controllers are no where near maxed out. Using the L1 + R1 configuration system standard to FS19 i have loads of unused inputs i can still assign, while running GPS and AutoDrive.

[AfkForCoffee]

Because they can sell the GPS functionality as a DLC to ♥♥♥♥♥ some more money so no it's not going to be in the stock game.

[elevenfourteen]

Is there a reason to jump from topic to topic ane being angry and toxic? How does that contribute to anything?

[BossmanSlim]

Originally posted by WolvesCreek:

I mean if they dont add it and everybody knows its going to be modded in whats the big deal? Just get the mod, your going to mod the game anyway.

The issue is that if sales are not impacted, this feature may continue to get pushed out for future versions because no financial impact was seen. The other main problem is that Giants delayed the information needed by modders to make mods by 6 months on FS19, so it took about 9 months to get a working GPS mod, with full release being 13 months after FS19 release (Dec 2019).

Why should I play a game for a year that is missing a key mod because the devs decided adding grapes was more important?

Originally posted by WolvesCreek:

As for the reason its not in the game I'm actually curious as to why myself, perhaps they think that it takes away from t he game and will turn it into a different type of game where people no longer drive the equipment?

If this were the argument, helpers would not be in the game.

Originally posted by WolvesCreek:

If that WAS the case than on the flip side of the argument they could use a gps feature to add a secondary type of gameplay from a more overhead perspective more like a tycoon game.

Allowing players to decide how they want to play the game, as a manager or as a farmer or both?

This is what courseplay does to some extent. Courseplay is a better AI management mod that allows the player to automate a good portion of the game.

GPS still requires the player to be in the tractor and make the turn at the end. GPS does the same thing it does IRL, it prevents unnecessary overlap and skipping to decrease wasted time.

I'd be in favor of a more management style game similar to Farm Manager (which is complete trash).

[BreadedVirus]

Since using courseplay i have hardly used GPS...