Consort Radahn is a terrible boss fight and makes this game worse by existing.

[FanaticPharaoh]

I wanted to beat him solo without summons and in various ways before making this conclusion. The difference in difficulty comparing a two handed STR build and DEX or ARC build is comical and makes the game look worse. It took me less than one hour with a status build and a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ day with a bonker. You simply do not have the time to hit him large weapons.
The first phase would be fine, but the second phase is plagued by screen clutter and flashing lights. His hit boxes aren't accurate and he splashes area of effect damage all around himself at the end of combos.
I have played a lot of souls games and he is the worst-not just because he is hard but because he literally forces you to play a way you don't want to. He invalidates play styles and it really rubs me the wrong way. There is a massive middle ground between making players adapt and forcing them into meta builds and he jumps his fat ass right over it.

Idk what they could do to fix it, the whole second phase is just cursed beyond existence. I LOVE souls games and I love this game, and this is a terrible example of how they should be. Alright that's it, tell me why consort radahn is your favorite souls boss.

[EF_Neo1st]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Hikaru:

Yeah I think they need to increase the amount of punish windows and the recovery frames he has after combos. The expression of skill for strength builds is significantly lower because you can simply do way less. It's much easier to make mistakes due to lack of knowledge sure, but once you know the limits all it means is you can just press attack buttons less frequently.

There isn't much more you can do with dex builds though. I find most of the fights in this DLC have very low expression of skill because the attack windows are so limited. One button punishes in most cases, sometimes 2 presses of R1. You have about 3 options in most fights: single R1, double R1, charged R2/ash of war depending on what is stronger.

Only thing they nee to reduce . . .
The particles on screen covering sight of wtf Radahn is doing or will do next (reducing the heigh form the ground would already make a ton of difference)
The punishment windows would be fine if we could see wtf Radahn is doing also why tf do all his melee moves in 2nd stage have AoEs too? I hate AoE spam and it is AoE spam from beginning to end of stage 2, still manageabe aand the "real concern" is all the particlees curtain covering the screen over and over.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Diposting pertama kali oleh FanaticPharaoh:

second phase is plagued by screen clutter and flashing lights. He invalidates play styles and it really rubs me the wrong way.

Agreed.

Intended way to play against him seems to be
greatshield, Blood Antspur Rapier and sunglasses.

[zab]

yup

[poppindancers]

My only problem is with all the attack VFX and miquella's hair blocking the view and you can't see what Radahn's doing.

Oh and the shadow clone jutsu, but they don't do as much damage.

[S'Aihz]

Radahn was something.... stupid as a fight, comically but beatable even solo and without a horse. I don't know what boundaries you have set for yourself but i can't recall that i needet that many tries or build up that many stress with this fight. Maybe i got lucky but i remember that the build up to his attacks were fair so i could ready myself to dodge them. Maybe the best way is to keep a eye on his weapon and try to attack him from the sides.

If this is your first run and Radahn gives you a hard time, i would not recommend to try Malenia or Mohg, both require very specific things and even than victory is not guranteed (depending on your self set boundaries ofc.)

Fighting both as a normal being (no magic, no comically large weapon, no epic weapon/armor) was a hell to go trough, mostly because of input latency or the attacks that either require said specific item as for Mohg or even specific technices for that mudmoth Malenia. Both are optional and will consume lot's of practice hours and luck.

[Aria Athena]

I had a lot trouble with visibility on phase two, but not his openings. I found the latter to be fine. It was the combination of his mane, his size and the spears of light that was too much.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Diposting pertama kali oleh S'Aihz:

Radahn was something.... stupid as a fight, comically but beatable even solo and without a horse.

Sir this is thread about final boss of DLC.

[S'Aihz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sc0rpiTr0n:

Diposting pertama kali oleh S'Aihz:

Radahn was something.... stupid as a fight, comically but beatable even solo and without a horse.

Sir this is thread about final boss of DLC.

Well in that case excuse me pls, i didnt buy the dlc and had no idea that they reused bosses or their names again

[Burdpal]

The final fight has really pushed the limits of the archaic dodge roll mechanics for damage avoidance. Juxtaposed with older Dark Souls games which utilize similar functions, it's wild how far the genre has gone. Some of the DLC fights are genuinely fun and engaging, and don't feel cheap (Romina, Scadutree, and Messmer come to mind).

I hope From learned not to design bosses in this way going forward, as the visual bloat and unavoidable triple-slash attacks are not healthy. I feel like every time I fight the Consort, I don't really learn much. How am I supposed to learn what I can't see?

I think the single thing that would help this fight would be for phase 2 to trigger at 30% or 40% health, instead of 60%. Phase 1 is enjoyable and fine, but phase 2 is way too much to deal with. By the time Phase 2 normally triggers, I feel like I'm kiting for the next 10 minutes waiting for a sliver of an opportunity to attack. Not fun.

[Trax]

op is right this endboss ruines the dlc

[MONKEY SAC]

I actually beat him on my first run of the DLC (ended up resorting to summoning my mimic and Ansbach to help, but w/e), but I have yet to even come close on any subsequent attempt, and it's gotten to the point where I don't even bother progressing past Messmer anymore, and frankly, I might just be done with this game as a result of this boss. No part of the experience of this boss is rewarding nor fun. And it's not a skill issue: Malenia is easy for me at this point, as is literally every other boss in this DLC (except Gaius and his equally janky hitboxes, fk that guy), and frankly, even phase 1 of the Promised ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't even that bad (it's bad by FS standards, but at least tolerable). But phase 2 is just exhausting in all the worst ways. Even my computer struggles to deal with the visual diarrhea of this fight, and literally stutters to about 20fps during that bs Light of Miquella attack, which should otherwise be super easy to avoid.

[Mori]

Based

[Martin]

He was intended to be the hardest boss fromsoft has ever made, of course he is gonna ♥♥♥♥ gameplay wise. Same ♥♥♥♥ happend with Malenia.

[EF_Neo1st]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RealValpispower:

He was intended to be the hardest boss fromsoft has ever made, of course he is gonna ♥♥♥♥ gameplay wise. Same ♥♥♥♥ happend with Malenia.

You can always clearly see what Malenia (and all other bosses) are doing for the vast majority of the fight.
Even Golden Hippo inside an egg-of-an-arena is not aas bad with camera and particles (and I am considering the body of the hippo covering the screen as "particles").

[Martin]

Diposting pertama kali oleh EF_Neo1st:

Diposting pertama kali oleh RealValpispower:

He was intended to be the hardest boss fromsoft has ever made, of course he is gonna ♥♥♥♥ gameplay wise. Same ♥♥♥♥ happend with Malenia.

You can always clearly see what Malenia (and all other bosses) are doing for the vast majority of the fight.
Even Golden Hippo inside an egg-of-an-arena is not aas bad with camera and particles (and I am considering the body of the hippo covering the screen as "particles").

Yeah, the main complain people had for Malenia is that she is an RNG fest, and that she can heal.