We desperetly need the balance patch...

[Dollmaker]

PvP is basically back to release date with how broken stuff is.

Swift Slash, Blindspot, Impenetrable Thorns, Claws of Night, Bloodfiend's Arm, Gravitational Missile, etc.

Like, can we just move past the stupid Insta Bleed and spammy i-frame AOW phase already?

[Nefarious Slurp]

To bad the entire development, creative, and the music team for elden ring all quit then.

I guess its time to git gud bud

[Kim]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

PvP is basically back to release date with how broken stuff is.

Swift Slash, Blindspot, Wall of Thorns, Claws of Night, Bloodfiend's Arm, Gravitational Missile, etc.

Like, can we just move past the stupid Insta Bleed and spammy i-frame AOW phase already?

Is it really broken or people do not already figured out how to counter some AoW/spells ?

(Legit question)

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Kim:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

PvP is basically back to release date with how broken stuff is.

Swift Slash, Blindspot, Wall of Thorns, Claws of Night, Bloodfiend's Arm, Gravitational Missile, etc.

Like, can we just move past the stupid Insta Bleed and spammy i-frame AOW phase already?

Is it really broken or people do not already figured out how to counter some AoW/spells ?

(Legit question)

Swift Slash is literally faster than running and is spammable af.

This video perfectly shows how braindead Blindspot is:
https://youtu.be/sKvBT0P5Klo?si=n_eUDidc56YEW_oU


Wall of Thorns can insta kill players when aimed at the ground, aka the same issue Rolling Spark had.

Claws of night's AoW insta procs bleed while also causing a lot stagger (plus is costs very little FP)

Bloodfiend Arm can easily insta proc bleed heavies, even after the nerf, i actually got fed up in a recent run against Rellana and obliterated her with this.

Gravitational Missile will explode basically instantly when aimed at the ground, making it a quick cast nuke, rather than its intended Black Hole Explosion design.

[Dizzy Ladybug]

wall of thorns? or is it impenetrable thorns?

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

wall of thorns? or is it impenetrable thorns?

I hate Elden Ring's naming scheme, didnt you know?

[Kim]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Kim:

Is it really broken or people do not already figured out how to counter some AoW/spells ?

(Legit question)

Swift Slash is literally faster than running and is spammable af.

This video perfectly shows how braindead Blindspot is:
https://youtu.be/sKvBT0P5Klo?si=n_eUDidc56YEW_oU


Wall of Thorns can insta kill players when aimed at the ground, aka the same issue Rolling Spark had.

Claws of night's AoW insta procs bleed while also causing a lot stagger (plus is costs very little FP)

Bloodfiend Arm can easily insta proc bleed heavies, even after the nerf, i actually got fed up in a recent run against Rellana and obliterated her with this.

Gravitational Missile will explode basically instantly when aimed at the ground, making it a quick cast nuke, rather than its intended Black Hole Explosion design.

WoT & GM need bug fixes.

For the rest, yup, some adjustments seem necessary.

At least for PvP, although it would be boring to play with something so powerful and cheap in PvE too

[paulim]

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[zmanbuilder]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

PvP is basically back to release date with how broken stuff is.

Swift Slash, Blindspot, Impenetrable Thorns, Claws of Night, Bloodfiend's Arm, Gravitational Missile, etc.

Like, can we just move past the stupid Insta Bleed and spammy i-frame AOW phase already?

I can deal with swift slash, but blind spot i cannot.

[LuckyCheshire]

Bloodfiend's Arm is perfectly fair for PvP. Sure, it's incredibly powerful, but if you walk into a charged heavy from the (or at least one of the bottom three, idk the exact rankings off the top of my head) shortest colossal weapon in the game, it's your own stinking fault. It's still a little OP for PvE, but that's fine.

The Claws of Night aren't too bad, I think they just need the range cut down slightly and to have a little bit longer recovery time. I don't think they even strictly need the nerf, they're still weaker than some base game weapons that have been waiting for a nerf forever.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by LuckyCheshire:

Bloodfiend's Arm is perfectly fair for PvP. Sure, it's incredibly powerful, but if you walk into a charged heavy from the (or at least one of the bottom three, idk the exact rankings off the top of my head) shortest colossal weapon in the game, it's your own stinking fault. It's still a little OP for PvE, but that's fine.

The Claws of Night aren't too bad, I think they just need the range cut down slightly and to have a little bit longer recovery time. I don't think they even strictly need the nerf, they're still weaker than some base game weapons that have been waiting for a nerf forever.

I was talking about Heavy attacks, not Charged, and it comes out decently fast.

The bleed build up is simply too excessive.

Same goes fro Claws of Night, the game needs to move past free high Bleed Procs, we dont want another RoB/Sepukku situation.

[nfinite.recursion]

Good news - FromSoft is still working on the game:

https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/history/

There was an update to qa-release today, so maybe another patch soon.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Good news - FromSoft is still working on the game:

https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/history/

There was an update to qa-release today, so maybe another patch soon.

Hopefully, cause besides fixes and nerfs, we also need some buffs

A good example being Minor Erdtree, this thing needs A LOT.

[Stoon Finger]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by nfinite.recursion:

Good news - FromSoft is still working on the game:

https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/history/

There was an update to qa-release today, so maybe another patch soon.

Hopefully, cause besides fixes and nerfs, we also need some buffs

A good example being Minor Erdtree, this thing needs A LOT.

Minor Erdtree is so bad, I was so excited about the idea of it but it doesn't even look impressive... the healing is so bad I cannot imagine just attempting to stand there and receive any type of healing while in a battle running from the hyper attacks of all the DLC enemies... and at 70 faith requirement! Needs a lot more healing power to be useful unfortunately... thought it would at least be something else I could stack in my heal build but its just not even worth casting.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Stoon Finger:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Hopefully, cause besides fixes and nerfs, we also need some buffs

A good example being Minor Erdtree, this thing needs A LOT.

Minor Erdtree is so bad, I was so excited about the idea of it but it doesn't even look impressive... the healing is so bad I cannot imagine just attempting to stand there and receive any type of healing while in a battle running from the hyper attacks of all the DLC enemies... and at 70 faith requirement! Needs a lot more healing power to be useful unfortunately... thought it would at least be something else I could stack in my heal build but its just not even worth casting.

The healing would be fine if it at least had a considerably bigger aoe, like twice if not triple the current one.

But yeah, its basically a considerably more expensive Warming Stone, with the requirement being the worst part.

Doesnt help that it requires two freaking slots.

[Dollmaker]

Since we talking about buffs now, i could mention the Spear of the Impaler's Heavy and Charge attacks, the throws just do no dmg, and for how much stamina it consumes, its hardly worth using.