Contemplating an "Golden Order Assassin" build, need some opinions/help please

[Artimise Flare]

So I'm thinking of giving this a whirl, either using x2 curved swords or x2 daggers (Blade of Calling and Sacred Flame art or Sacred Erd steel dagger), focusing around perhaps a faith/dex build, or should I just stick with a status effect build since that seems to favor dual curved swords/daggers more?

Frankly, I'm new to character building, so I'm not 100% sure how to optimize something like this.

[Twisty]

What I think would be really cool is

Black Knife is pretty dope, not much of a golden order weapon though. Blade of Calling is great too, if you were to use both I'd recommend it.

For bigger fights you could farm up the Halo Scythe or use the Treespear, or the OG Claymore.

[Key]

Reminds me of my first playthrough using dual daggers, it made me think this game was so much harder than it actually is.

It's unhortodox for sure but it's certainly doable. Erdtree daggers are exceptionally good as far as daggers go, and you can obtain two in a single playthrough, a Flame Art/Sacred Misericorde is also a great option for ripostes.

By Golden Order you mean using only GO incantations or a holy focused build? Because GO incantations aren't exactly great.

[Paz]

So if you really want a decent Golden Order build you'll need to dabble into INT as well. The Golden Order incantations require both faith and int.

[Dollmaker]

Originally posted by Lateralus:

So if you really want a decent Golden Order build you'll need to dabble into INT as well. The Golden Order incantations require both faith and int.

Kinda unrelated but it can also allow you to use sorceries and incantations centered around stealth.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by Key:

Reminds me of my first playthrough using dual daggers, it made me think this game was so much harder than it actually is.

It's unhortodox for sure but it's certainly doable. Erdtree daggers are exceptionally good as far as daggers go, and you can obtain two in a single playthrough, a Flame Art/Sacred Misericorde is also a great option for ripostes.

By Golden Order you mean using only GO incantations or a holy focused build? Because GO incantations aren't exactly great.

Nah, mostly thematic armor wise and using holy weapons, but I won't be forced to only use those. Golden Vow, maybe flame grant me strength and stuff like that (Even though, if I recall, fire based spells are considered heretical according to lore?)

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Originally posted by Lateralus:

So if you really want a decent Golden Order build you'll need to dabble into INT as well. The Golden Order incantations require both faith and int.

Kinda unrelated but it can also allow you to use sorceries and incantations centered around stealth.

That's the idea, I was looking at also using stealth based spells, but the character would not be above using incantations that causes increased bleed etc. Their job is to eliminate enemies of the Erd tree and/or the Golden Order as a whole. If they must use heretical spells/incantations to accomplish this, so be it.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by Lateralus:

So if you really want a decent Golden Order build you'll need to dabble into INT as well. The Golden Order incantations require both faith and int.

Sounds like a good idea to go for. Any particular spells you would recommend?

[Knavenformed]

Going with status just for the meta-play is Fail RP
Direct damage is pretty bad comparatively, but Sacred Blade is a great buff and a ranged Ash of War for almost anything you want

[Key]

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

(Even though, if I recall, fire based spells are considered heretical according to lore?)

So yes, but also Corhyn sells Catch Flame, which is a Fire Monk incantation, and he's supposedly the Golden Order's n°1 fan. Then again, he calls the Fire Monk Prayerbook a work of heresy if you give it to him.

Then again, Corhyn also sells Two Fingers incantations, but calls for heresy if you give him the Two Fingers prayerbook, but then, he also uses Two Fingers incantations if you attack him.

Elden Ring's lore is a giant mess, and it feels like it's the product 5 different writers who hate eachother, it's nowhere near as coherent as previous games, no matter how hard Vaati keeps pretending that it is.

[Artimise Flare]

Originally posted by Key:

Originally posted by Artimise Flare:

(Even though, if I recall, fire based spells are considered heretical according to lore?)

So yes, but also Corhyn sells Catch Flame, which is a Fire Monk incantation, and he's supposedly the Golden Order's n°1 fan. Then again, he calls the Fire Monk Prayerbook a work of heresy if you give it to him.

Then again, Corhyn also sells Two Fingers incantations, but calls for heresy if you give him the Two Fingers prayerbook, but then, he also uses Two Fingers incantations if you attack him.

Elden Ring's lore is a giant mess, and it feels like it's the product 5 different writers who hate eachother, it's nowhere near as coherent as previous games, no matter how hard Vaati keeps pretending that it is.

Interesting, if i were to do this build from scratch, which do you think would be a better starter, Prisoner of Confessor?

I'm thinking Prisoner would likely be better since I'll probably have to rely on Dex for a large portion of the game until i am able to get enough faith based items and so on. Beating Radahn with daggers or curved swords is going to be......interesting to say the least.