You think they're going to add SOTE Achievements any time soon?

[SotiCoto]

In part I'm holding off on getting SOTE until it goes on sale, same as I did with the base game...
... but the other reason I'm holding off on getting it is that I don't want to play through the whole thing THEN have FromSoft add achievements later down the track, which would force me to replay the entire DLC when I've likely ran out of any and all incentive to bother.

I can't be entirely sure though. I mean Elden Ring's achievements in general are kinda... low-effort. Even casual players can 100% this game easily in a single playthrough. Not like Dark Souls where 100% took 2.5 playthroughs primarily because of Sif having 3 soul weapons.

[patrol]

Look man, i'm all in for achievements and all, but they didn't even bother testing what this DLC will do to the base game from the amount of issues it introduced. Kind of feels like the plyers here are the playtesters. Getting randomly kicked out because the Anti-cheat fired off for some reason, weapons that weren't properly tested (the mininuke perfume bottles, swift slash spam, weapons that deal 200% more dmg if you infuse them with elemental dmg, the thorns of insta-bleed, the all-inflicting torch, I could go on and on) or just the overall performance drop.

The point is i wouldn't expect it any time soon, at least not until they fix what they broke

[Fineous🔥]

No and if you are waiting for them just stop. Save yourself a dissapointment.

[Key]

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

[aNsWeRkEy23]

Originally posted by Key:

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

Yes you can..just back up your save after elden beast fight, select your ending, then copy you backup again, reload & choose another ending

[Key]

Originally posted by aNsWeRkEy23:

Originally posted by Key:

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

Yes you can..just back up your save after elden beast fight, select your ending, then copy you backup again, reload & choose another ending

Oh Jesus.
Yes, you can also download a max level character save file and just breeze through the game, or use a Mod Menu to make yourself immortal, hell you could use glitches to bypass 80% of the game, it's obviously not the way you're supposed to do it though, is it?

What the hell is the point of an achievement if you do everything in your power to avoid going through the proper way to earn it.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by aNsWeRkEy23:

Originally posted by Key:

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

Yes you can..just back up your save after elden beast fight, select your ending, then copy you backup again, reload & choose another ending

But he claims he needs to start 3rd playthrough in Dark Souls 1 for Sif souls to craft unique weapons, while you can dupe them with a friend or have someone drop you the weapons. Backing up is outside the box solution you don't have load/save game option within game menus. If you need 3 playthroughs for DS achievements, you need 3 for ER.

[Royal-Requiem]

I've asked around already, and most people assume there won't be achievements for the DLC. I don't know why you're waiting for the DLC to go on sale just for that reason.

Originally posted by author:

Even casual players can 100% this game easily in a single playthrough.

What kind of casual picks up Elden Ring and 100%'s the game, you're crazy.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Key:

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

I'll count that as fortune then. But it isn't like achievements haven't been released after the expansion they're for before. Just.... can't think of any examples of FromSoft specifically doing it.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

It is one thing to have opinions about how something sounds, and another entirely to try and extrapolate motivations or whatever from your personal interpretation.
Playing games isn't a chore in general.
But I am one of those folks driven largely by OCD to do things a particular way. In my case, if I start playing a game, I must get all the achievements. No exceptions. Even if I end up viscerally hating a game to my very core, I can't stop until I have 100% completed it. Cannot. Non-optional. OCD does not make exceptions.
So it just so happens that one of the banes of my existence is when a game I have already 100% completed gets new content ... and a bunch of new achievements. Doubly so if they're for things I already did but don't count retroactively. A hundredfold for a game I actively hated.
Fortunately I do NOT hate Elden Ring.... though I'm specifically annoyed by EAC. If FromSoft added achievements AFTER I'd already done Shadow of the Erdtree then I probably would replay it to get them... but by that point it would be a chore...

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

I guess you don't 100% a lot of games.
I did it all in one playthrough by meeting as many conditions as possible for each of the endings.... then at the point of no return, I backed up my save file. I then got each of the endings, completed the game, and restored the save file from the backup to do a different ending.
So yeah. I did get all the endings in one playthrough. In fact the only one that even required I make my save file before entering the Erdtree was the Frenzied Flame ending.

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

But he claims he needs to start 3rd playthrough in Dark Souls 1 for Sif souls to craft unique weapons, while you can dupe them with a friend or have someone drop you the weapons. Backing up is outside the box solution you don't have load/save game option within game menus. If you need 3 playthroughs for DS achievements, you need 3 for ER.

"A friend". "Someone".
I'll tell you a little story.
When I first played Dark Souls... I used the White Soapstone in front of the Belfry Gargoyles. I didn't know what to expect. I wanted someone to fight it with me. So I put the mark down and waited. I waited for 3 hours. Then I ran out of patience, went in there, and killed them first time.
Quelaag, I tried again and waited 2 hours. Nobody answered. Nobody came. Nobody helped.
I tried repeatedly putting down co-op markers throughout the entire Dark Souls trilogy. I never got a single response. Not even once in multiple playthroughs of all three games. To this day I've never ever done co-op in any FromSoft game despite trying my utmost. Couldn't even if I wanted to in Elden Ring since I play with mods.

Plenty of invaders though. Had invaders interfering with my progress a fair bit. Kinda got used to them after a while.

Point is any solution that requires relying on other players was never available to me from the start.


Incidentally I found out the reason only years after the fact: I was always "overlevelled" for the area. I play games like old-school JRPGs and grind levels for everything. Even in Elden Ring I'm usually around level 90 by the time I first fight Godrick.

Originally posted by Royal-Requiem:

What kind of casual picks up Elden Ring and 100%'s the game, you're crazy.

The kind who wants easy achievements.
For all that Elden Ring has a reputation for difficulty, the achievements are almost insultingly easy. You could 100% the game by accident. In fact I suspect most people have.
Most other games have at least a few achievements that require checking a guide. Even the Dark Souls trilogy had achievements requiring collecting all Sorceries and Miracles... and the first one had one for collecting all boss weapons. Elden Ring only requires collecting a few specific ones which are rather difficult to miss... and beating the main bosses.

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

"A friend". "Someone".
To this day I've never ever done co-op in any FromSoft game despite trying my utmost. Couldn't even if I wanted to in Elden Ring since I play with mods.

There is no issue with loading a mule character in DS1 either, and since you play with mods... besides "a friend" and "someone" does not refer to complete stranger that you would summon to fight a boss, because there is no chat so you cannot ask them in game if they have the item of your choice so they could drop it for you.

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

For all that Elden Ring has a reputation for difficulty, the achievements are almost insultingly easy. You could 100% the game by accident. In fact I suspect most people have.
Most other games have at least a few achievements that require checking a guide.

-I don't want to know how many players did ask on this forum alone for a bolt of gransax, because, you know, it's easy to miss and lock yourself from it in a single playthrough.
-They definitely didn't use guide/wiki or didn't check what are conditions for legendary armament achievement so they can ask for specific item to drop.
-It's so easy to find a path to placidusax arena too. Only boss that was killed by lower amount of players is a boss that needs to progress specific questline.
-Ranni ending achieved by more players than default ending, definitely not within help of the guide.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Darkstorm:

There is no issue with loading a mule character in DS1 either, and since you play with mods... besides "a friend" and "someone" does not refer to complete stranger that you would summon to fight a boss, because there is no chat so you cannot ask them in game if they have the item of your choice so they could drop it for you.

Okay, but it isn't like I have any gamer friends who could play the game with me if I asked them either. I've got few friends as is, and none of them are gamers. My Steam friend-list is mostly full of people I don't actually know.

-I don't want to know how many players did ask on this forum alone for a bolt of gransax, because, you know, it's easy to miss and lock yourself from it in a single playthrough.

Wasn't that the one you pick up on the big spirally spear thing in the capital city?
I'm asking because I'm not 100% sure, but I'm at least 80% sure that is where that one was.... because it was literally located on itself... and you'd have to be brain-damaged to miss it.

It's so easy to find a path to placidusax arena too. Only boss that was killed by lower amount of players is a boss that needs to progress specific questline.

I'm guessing you're talking about Lichdragon Fortissax in the latter case? Yeah, that one was a bit niche compared to most of the others. But I never felt like I wasn't going to find it. It is nowhere near the level of some player-set challenges... like how to get a normal ending to the game with Melina still alive...

-Ranni ending achieved by more players than default ending, definitely not within help of the guide.

Now I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convey. It reads like you're saying one thing but trying to say the opposite.

[Talilover]

Originally posted by aNsWeRkEy23:

Originally posted by Key:

With the exception of Old Hunters, FromSoftware never added new achievement with their DLCs, I don't see why they should start now and do it after the DLC has already been released.

Also the way you worded this makes it sound like playing the game is a chore you have to do in order to get the achievements, which is a really strange way to look at something you should be playing for fun.

Also you cannot 100% ER in a single playthrough, as you need all endings.

Yes you can..just back up your save after elden beast fight, select your ending, then copy you backup again, reload & choose another ending

Cowards way out chief, it ain't that hard to breeze through the game 2 more times

[Speed Malus]

When they decide to release a Scholar of the First Elden Ring edition, with new enemy and item placement and mayhaps actual NG+ content!

[rparham685]

Oh god.......We need a Pursuer! XD
...and then, salt on wounds here, make them based off of Redahn 2.0 .

[Darkstorm]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Okay, but it isn't like I have any gamer friends who could play the game with me if I asked them either. I've got few friends as is, and none of them are gamers. My Steam friend-list is mostly full of people I don't actually know.

Doesn't matter, if people had real friends to help them with in game achievement they wouldn't ask on the steam forums for a drop. And they get these drops from the people they don't actually know.

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Wasn't that the one you pick up on the big spirally spear thing in the capital city?
I'm asking because I'm not 100% sure, but I'm at least 80% sure that is where that one was.... because it was literally located on itself... and you'd have to be brain-damaged to miss it.

So you are saying that 83% of Elden Ring players on steam is brain damaged, and from remaining 17% those who asked for a drop because they missed it are brain damaged too. Very nice.

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

I'm guessing you're talking about Lichdragon Fortissax in the latter case? Yeah, that one was a bit niche compared to most of the others. But I never felt like I wasn't going to find it. It is nowhere near the level of some player-set challenges... like how to get a normal ending to the game with Melina still alive...

It is Fortissax and it requires to progress a questline for it to be available, and placidusax is second one in order because of how hard is to spot the place where you can reach his arena.

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Now I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to convey. It reads like you're saying one thing but trying to say the opposite.

I say that default ending is minimum effort and should have highest % from all achievement endings, but people wanted the "good" ending so they played with a guide. Therefore I used irony.

It was you who claimed that quote:

ER achievements are almost insultingly easy. You could 100% the game by accident. In fact I suspect most people have.

[patrol]

Originally posted by rparham685:

Oh god.......We need a Pursuer! XD
...and then, salt on wounds here, make them based off of Redahn 2.0 .

Which part of Radahn 2.0 ? Hope not the one that should have a seizure warning before fighting him