Clarification on Ranni ending. Spoilers?

[NotForMe]

Basically, the ending has her moving not just the stars, but the world itself, on its 1000 year voyage, too the Greater Will, instead of waiting for the answer Enia says might not come for possibly 10s of thousands of years?

Or am I over assuming something? I find most messages in the game are actually very direct, why would she call her rule a voyage, if she did not intend to go somewhere.

[Borger]

Originally posted by ajv941:

When Elden Ring first released there was some buzz about Ranni's lines being mistranslated. You can still look it up, but the gist of it is she wants to free the world from the influence of the outer gods. She even said this directly in her Japanese dialogue well before the ending. I'm pretty sure I'm remembering that correctly.

Specifically about how it works, I don't know.

Exactly

[impuretrash2878]

she wants to take gods far away from the human realm so people can live free without their constant meddling.

[Rastrelly]

Ranni's ending is basically "stop harrassing the reality, leave them be to their on devices"

[SHOCKNUTZ]

Originally posted by ajv941:

I guess you become the Elden Lord, embodiment of the Golden Order, and she whisks you away to the moon to be forgotten along with the Golden Order.

this is why i'm saying the DLC needs to include locations on the moons in ER. there are multiple moons. that means more fights with astels. maybe even a 3 astel gank fight.

[MundM]

Originally posted by SHOCKNUTZ:

Originally posted by ajv941:

I guess you become the Elden Lord, embodiment of the Golden Order, and she whisks you away to the moon to be forgotten along with the Golden Order.

this is why i'm saying the DLC needs to include locations on the moons in ER. there are multiple moons. that means more fights with astels. maybe even a 3 astel gank fight.

Why not make it 6? It doesn't matter at this point anyway. If 2 respawning godskins are peak design, than each more astel means more good boss design.

But seriously, I really hope the dlc has only new enemies. They are working so long on that, I'm sure they want to give back to the community duo to the unexpected amount of sales.

[Mr_Blank]

My question is she gonna kill the greater will? And also why would she have blaidd and us kill radahn instead of looking for a cure for the guy, his powerful gravity magic would have made the 1000 year voyage a LOT shorter. And before you get on my ass about radahn not being able to do something like that, keep in mind this man literally held not one, not two, but THOUSANDS of stars in the sky, which is objectively much more mass than a single planet, even if the lands between’s world is the size of Jupiter.

[Silyon]

Far as I've gathered, Ranni's primary motivation is Freedom and rebellion against the Greater Will that would attempt to puppet her with Emperyan status. Ultimately, her goal is to sever her inherent ties to the Will, Seize the Elden Ring from Marika, and run off with it to some obscure corner of the Cosmos where it's in theory too far to exert influence on the Lands Between and the rest of the world beyond it. This, in her mind, frees the land from domination by the Greater Will and allows it's surviving people to forge their own path free of it's influence.

The bit that she fails to recognize (or care about) is the numerous other outer gods that would happily move into the power vacuum she would create and assert their will over the world instead of the Greater Will. Formless Mother's already trying to do exactly that, and since Mohg's an optional boss he may even still be alive to give her a coporal tool. Frenzy Flame still exists locked up below the capital struggling to break free. Malenia's also an optional boss that's potentially still alive and the avenue for the God of Rot in the same way Mohg is for the Formless Mother. None of these would create pleasant worlds if left unchecked by the overwhelming influence of the Greater Will.

Sooo yeah. World's toast, freedom's a fleeting illusion, all endings mean terrible news for the world. That Ranni's is considered one of the least bad speaks volumes of how terrible the others end up.

[Vinnolo]

in a nutshell she:
-causes the shattering.
-gets the elden ring and takes it away so greater will will not have influence in lands between... so another shattering will not happen again... which she started in the first place.
-completely forgets all the other outer gods existance so lands between will probably will be even worse than before if it falls on the hands of formless mother, frenzy flame, etc.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

My question is she gonna kill the greater will? And also why would she have blaidd and us kill radahn instead of looking for a cure for the guy, his powerful gravity magic would have made the 1000 year voyage a LOT shorter. And before you get on my ass about radahn not being able to do something like that, keep in mind this man literally held not one, not two, but THOUSANDS of stars in the sky, which is objectively much more mass than a single planet, even if the lands between’s world is the size of Jupiter.

Because you can't cure Scarlet Rot. the best Miq was able to achieve at the height of his power was to slow down the progress of the rot, at the cost of turning into something else.

[Silyon]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

Originally posted by Mr_Blank:

My question is she gonna kill the greater will? And also why would she have blaidd and us kill radahn instead of looking for a cure for the guy, his powerful gravity magic would have made the 1000 year voyage a LOT shorter. And before you get on my ass about radahn not being able to do something like that, keep in mind this man literally held not one, not two, but THOUSANDS of stars in the sky, which is objectively much more mass than a single planet, even if the lands between’s world is the size of Jupiter.

Because you can't cure Scarlet Rot. the best Miq was able to achieve at the height of his power was to slow down the progress of the rot, at the cost of turning into something else.

And furthermore, Radahn was actively preventing her "destiny" from occurring BECAUSE of the whole "holding the stars" thing. She's a Carian Noble, her fate is tied up in the movements of the Stars. If the stars arn't moving, neither can she make any real progress towards whatever her ends are. Whatever Radahn's reasons for messing with the stars in the first place was, he ended up tying Ranni's hands more securely than the Greater Will and Two fingers ever did.

Then we come along, Finally take out the rot-maddened general, and Ranni's suddenly able to find her plans getting traction and going somewhere. Or do you think it chance that the meteor that falls after Radahn's death just to happens to open the path to the otherwise inaccessable Eternal City and the treasure she's seeking in it?

[fauxpas]

Oh, and to add to that, we might not know the full story about why the General was holding the stars at bay (I personally think it was to protect the town of Sellia but there's no proof.) but we do know that he idealized Godfrey, even over his own kin and fought in the Shattering along with the rest of the Shard Bearers. So why would anyone assume he'd be content to help Ranni?

[Sayo]

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

in a nutshell she:
-causes the shattering.
-gets the elden ring and takes it away so greater will will not have influence in lands between... so another shattering will not happen again... which she started in the first place.
-completely forgets all the other outer gods existance so lands between will probably will be even worse than before if it falls on the hands of formless mother, frenzy flame, etc.

FS's ability to tell a story has never really been one of their strengths. You can't really ask anything beyond basic surface level questions or the whole thing starts to fall apart and seam kinda silly.

[Drax]

Originally posted by Sayo:

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

in a nutshell she:
-causes the shattering.
-gets the elden ring and takes it away so greater will will not have influence in lands between... so another shattering will not happen again... which she started in the first place.
-completely forgets all the other outer gods existance so lands between will probably will be even worse than before if it falls on the hands of formless mother, frenzy flame, etc.

FS's ability to tell a story has never really been one of their strengths. You can't really ask anything beyond basic surface level questions or the whole thing starts to fall apart and seam kinda silly.

Hard disagree. The kind of storytelling Fromsoft employs isn't unique, and definitely isn't weak, it's actually considered the opposite. It's basically literary minimalism. And the whole point of literary minimalism is to encourage the reader to figure out the story for themselves. Giving them the pieces, rather than ending with the finished puzzle. It's a style I already quite enjoyed in novels and poetry, but works spectacularly well in games that allow for unconventional means of storytelling such as through the world and its locations (like Ranni's real body), a non-linear form of storytelling, player control within the story itself, and a larger 'community' aspect to the whole thing. It's never been popular with people who want a story plainly told to them. But I, and a lot of people, find that incredibly boring.

Maybe it's just that my taste has been complicated studying this stuff. But the vast majority of games have stories that don't interest me in the slightest. Often just there to complement the game, but usually something you want to skip because it's just getting in the way of the gameplay and if you wanted a story you'd just read a book instead. But Elden Ring is one of few stories that I legitimately cared about when playing the game, one that I enjoyed, and still find interesting to this day. They have one of, if not the largest communities for discussing and investigating the story out of any singleplayer game, and that's not just down to luck.

[Argonaut]

Originally posted by Sayo:

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

in a nutshell she:
-causes the shattering.
-gets the elden ring and takes it away so greater will will not have influence in lands between... so another shattering will not happen again... which she started in the first place.
-completely forgets all the other outer gods existance so lands between will probably will be even worse than before if it falls on the hands of formless mother, frenzy flame, etc.

FS's ability to tell a story has never really been one of their strengths. You can't really ask anything beyond basic surface level questions or the whole thing starts to fall apart and seam kinda silly.

Lol. Name 10 books.

[Alby]

Originally posted by Argonaut:

Originally posted by Sayo:

FS's ability to tell a story has never really been one of their strengths. You can't really ask anything beyond basic surface level questions or the whole thing starts to fall apart and seam kinda silly.

Lol. Name 10 books.

GaMe Of ThRoNeS 😂