How to fight knights as a mage, i.e. with sorcery

[Charlemagne]

I can deal with most mobs, I can deal with most bosses (a few have me stuck like the Fire Giant and Rykard) but I just can't beat knights (except the easy ones in Limgrave). Especially those monsters in Leyndell or Haligtree. They are practically immune to magic with that shield. Even sorceries that can hit them from behind like Ambush shard, which bring down soldiers and Limgrave knights in two or three stokes, barely scratch them. When I finally manage to do them some damage, they heal. I run out of mana. What can be the mage's option for this?
(Note: Melee is out of the question. I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them. And don't even mention parry. Parry?? Ha ha ha...)

[Mr.America]

The various melee spells are great for this purpose, especially Carian Piercer, that thing stuns and guardbreaks everything.

[Vheissu]

Yeah carian piercer knocks them down. Canon/gavel of Haima probably do the same.

[vamirez]

You can snipe them from far away with the greatbow spell :)

[IGSXXV]

Carian slicer is the best spell for this kind of situation, you just need to bait the attacks and find an opening without being greedy. If you show me how your build, maybe I can help more.

[IGSXXV]

Originally posted by vamirez:

You can snipe them from far away with the greatbow spell :)

And ignore that troll advice one of the worst spells in the game.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Melee is out of the question. I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them.

Melee is out of the question if you use light weapons
but try two handed Cold Flamberge or Cold Celebrant's Skull
and you will break their stance and kill them with no problem.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

Originally posted by vamirez:

You can snipe them from far away with the greatbow spell :)

And ignore that troll advice one of the worst spells in the game.

Wtf?

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Originally posted by vamirez:

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

And ignore that troll advice one of the worst spells in the game.

Wtf?

I am puzzled as well.
Loretta's Greatbow may not be top tier sorcery but it has its uses.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

Originally posted by vamirez:

Wtf?

I am puzzled as well.
Loretta's Greatbow may not be top tier sorcery but it has its uses.

Such as to snipe enemies while crawling...

[IGSXXV]

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

Originally posted by vamirez:

Wtf?

I am puzzled as well.
Loretta's Greatbow may not be top tier sorcery but it has its uses.

"I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them" with means glass canon build, this spell is one of the slowest of the game even when not charged and Comet, a faster spell, has better damage. But of course if you like the animation have fun.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

I am puzzled as well.
Loretta's Greatbow may not be top tier sorcery but it has its uses.

"I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them" with means glass canon build, this spell is one of the slowest of the game even when not charged and Comet, a faster spell, has better damage. But of course if you like the animation have fun.

But you are aware that you can literally snipe enemies with the greatbow spell from far away, and they don't even reach you before they die? The comet is also great to melt down some of the knight enemies, but requires you to be much closer.

[Sc0rpiTr0n]

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

I am puzzled as well.
Loretta's Greatbow may not be top tier sorcery but it has its uses.

"I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them" with means glass canon build, this spell is one of the slowest of the game even when not charged and Comet, a faster spell, has better damage. But of course if you like the animation have fun.

I agree Comet is overall better spell.
But that doesn't make Greatbow automatically "one of the worst spells".

It has long range that makes it great for sniping from far away.
Maybe not as useful against shielded knights but far from one of the worst spells imho.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by Sc0rpiTr0n:

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

"I die in 3 seconds when I try to melee with them" with means glass canon build, this spell is one of the slowest of the game even when not charged and Comet, a faster spell, has better damage. But of course if you like the animation have fun.

I agree Comet is overall better spell.
But that doesn't make Greatbow automatically "one of the worst spells".

It has long range that makes it great for sniping from far away.
Maybe not as useful against shielded knights but far from one of the worst spells imho.

I mentioned the spell because that's exactly what I did with it with my mage - snipe those knights in Leyndell. I also found it very useful on the Haligtree.

[IGSXXV]

"But you are aware that you can literally snipe enemies with the greatbow spell from far away" true, but again "those monsters in Leyndell or Haligtree" bloated stats and damage along side with a GREATSHIELD if you one hit kill it good. Not really "but requires you to be much closer" the distance is not a problem ER is very generous with the perception of enemies, they simply wait for you to attack.

[vamirez]

Originally posted by IGSXXIV:

"But you are aware that you can literally snipe enemies with the greatbow spell from far away" true, but again "those monsters in Leyndell or Haligtree" bloated stats and damage along side with a GREATSHIELD if you one hit kill it good. Not really "but requires you to be much closer" the distance is not a problem ER is very generous with the perception of enemies, they simply wait for you to attack.

Why is there an argument about this? Why does there need to be an argument about everything? Why immediately go "ignore this troll advice about the worst spell"?
I literally used the spell there and it was useful.

It's okay...