is it fine to play as vagabond first playthrough?

[Razburriez]

im just checking if starting w that class builds bad habits rlly (idk they seem op compared to other classes) (also im going for a heavy armor halberd playstyle i think, idk it sounds cool, if there are better classes for that im open to it)

[Razburriez]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Honestly, Vagabond is one of the classes I recommend for first playthrough. Just make sure to unequip the excess weight so you're not fat rolling.

what would u count as excess weight?

[Ironwu]

Originally posted by claudia :>:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Honestly, Vagabond is one of the classes I recommend for first playthrough. Just make sure to unequip the excess weight so you're not fat rolling.

what would u count as excess weight?

Light or Medium is mandatory. Heavy and above is very bad.

[Ironwu]

Claudia,

One critical thing to understand about armor in Elden Ring. Until you get much later in the game, armor does not allow you to Face-Tank enemies. Even later in the game, a very specific build style is required for that sort of play.

For most of the game, your armor has one function. To prevent you from being one or two shotted by hits. Giving you a chance to drink a flask.

You need to keep your equipment load at light or medium in order to be able to effectively dodge and roll.

Generally speaking Elden Ring is not a game about defense. It is a game about offense and opportunity to deliver it.

[Key]

Did you know that if you name your character Vagabond, other people see it as ***abond?

Just light Knight was K***ht, it's tradition.

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Key:

Did you know that if you name your character Vagabond, other people see it as ***abond?

Just light Knight was K***ht, it's tradition.

And now I find myself wondering how the folks at From pronounce the "vag" in "vagabond."

...because just like the letters in the middle of "knight," there's a big ol' phonetic gap between the base word and the one they're trying to keep people from spelling out.

[Key]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by Key:

Did you know that if you name your character Vagabond, other people see it as ***abond?

Just light Knight was K***ht, it's tradition.

And now I find myself wondering how the folks at From pronounce the "vag" in "vagabond."

...because just like the letters in the middle of "knight," there's a big ol' phonetic gap between the base word and the one they're trying to keep people from spelling out.

lol oh my God, I didn't even think about that.

I'm 100% referring to it as Vajabond from now on.

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by Key:

Did you know that if you name your character Vagabond, other people see it as ***abond?

Just light Knight was K***ht, it's tradition.

I believe that all started with Dks2. In the original Dks1 I believe you could name your character anything without any censoring.

[zero]

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

Originally posted by Key:

Did you know that if you name your character Vagabond, other people see it as ***abond?

Just light Knight was K***ht, it's tradition.

And now I find myself wondering how the folks at From pronounce the "vag" in "vagabond."

...because just like the letters in the middle of "knight," there's a big ol' phonetic gap between the base word and the one they're trying to keep people from spelling out.

it's just a superstrict filter which isn't checking for whats around the phrases they're locking out

knight? well it has shorthand for a racist word in the middle, its gotta go, heaven forbid they add an exception for the specific word "knight"

vagabond? well thats shorthand crass way to say women genitals, some bull.

does this game even block ♥♥♥♥ or anything adjacent? ive never seen someone try

edit: well it seem steams does, already better at it then from

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

And now I find myself wondering how the folks at From pronounce the "vag" in "vagabond."

...because just like the letters in the middle of "knight," there's a big ol' phonetic gap between the base word and the one they're trying to keep people from spelling out.

it's just a superstrict filter which isn't checking for whats around the phrases they're locking out

knight? well it has shorthand for a racist word in the middle, its gotta go, heaven forbid they add an exception for the specific word "knight"

vagabond? well thats shorthand crass way to say women genitals, some bull.

does this game even block ♥♥♥♥ or anything adjacent? ive never seen someone try

No clue if it censors that, because I haven't tried. There might be a loophole there, considering some people are actually named ♥♥♥♥ and all...

[Weedsmell]

choosing vagabond for a first run shows you have class

[zero]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by zero:

it's just a superstrict filter which isn't checking for whats around the phrases they're locking out

knight? well it has shorthand for a racist word in the middle, its gotta go, heaven forbid they add an exception for the specific word "knight"

vagabond? well thats shorthand crass way to say women genitals, some bull.

does this game even block ♥♥♥♥ or anything adjacent? ive never seen someone try

No clue if it censors that, because I haven't tried. There might be a loophole there, considering some people are actually named ♥♥♥♥ and all...

you write out richard and it blocks it out anyway, just to really be dumb about it.

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

No clue if it censors that, because I haven't tried. There might be a loophole there, considering some people are actually named ♥♥♥♥ and all...

you write out richard and it blocks it out anyway, just to really be dumb about it.

In that case, it's probably censored too. If something like Richard is censored just because it got "hard" in it, it most likely is.

[zero]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by zero:

you write out richard and it blocks it out anyway, just to really be dumb about it.

In that case, it's probably censored too. If something like Richard is censored just because it got "hard" in it, it most likely is.

ric****

[An Irate Walrus]

Originally posted by Key:

Originally posted by An Irate Walrus:

And now I find myself wondering how the folks at From pronounce the "vag" in "vagabond."

...because just like the letters in the middle of "knight," there's a big ol' phonetic gap between the base word and the one they're trying to keep people from spelling out.

lol oh my God, I didn't even think about that.

I'm 100% referring to it as Vajabond from now on.

This is absolutely what I was hoping for.

And I, too, will use this pronunciation from now on. "Be off with you, vajabond! The very whiff of you curls my nostril hairs."

More seriously, and back on topic, OP, when you're looking at weight class, your roll speed and distance change in relationship to the percentage of your maximum equipment load that your character is wearing, and includes your armor, shield (if any), and all weapons slotted for hot-swapping.

The percentage has varied a bit over the course of the Souls series, but ER seems most forgiving in that regard. I'm going off memory, so someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but over 70% of your equipment load will produce what are known as "fat rolls." This roll uses a slow animation where your character essentially throws themselves at the ground and then slowly rolls back up. They hit and damn near come to a full stop before rising to their feet--and the distance traveled during the animation is negligible.

Medium rolls are between 40-70%, and cover more distance/animate faster, providing both greater retreat from an attacking enemy and more i-frames to boot.

Light rolls start at 39% (again, going off memory here, so I may be off base), and get faster/cover more distance as the percentage drops. A true "light" roll (25% equipment load or less) essentially looks like a diving somersault, and can be used to either rapidly create or close distance with a target.

Bottom line: your weight is going to impact your movement more than anything, so you should try to frame your equipment around your desired load. If you want to go heavy armor and tower shield, a high load can be workable, because you'll be able to soak a lot of punishment.

If you're using lighter armor and a small shield--or none at all--you may want to be faster on your feet for those big hits your targe won't tank.

[LittleEtherKitty]

Originally posted by Nihrahk:

Originally posted by LittleEtherKitty:

That's not true, there is a wrong way to play, and that's playing in a way that's boring to the player. XP

True, but you can switch your play style if it's ever boring though.

As you should. Especially considering a decent amount of respect items can be obtained, easily, after Radahn.