DLC has bean leaked, be careful

[Phantom Limb]

Apparently, someone has been leaking loads of dlc content including major spoilers and boss fights. Be careful what you read or watch, you can potentially ruin the fun and surprise for yourself. Just 4 days left before it releases, don't get spoiled unless you really want to.

[SunfireKnight86]

Originally posted by Key:

I have news. Read at your own risk.

I did some digging and I am now fairly sure that I was wrong.

The Radahn-Miquella boss fight leak seems to be very real after I found some more informations. These include screenshots of the remembrance, a photo of the screen with the remembrance on it, the map of the DLC, a review video showcasing Radahn's weapons emitting holy light, and the AMA of a few journalists who pretty much confirmed it in a roundabout way.

With that said, I remain of the opinion that it's a poor concept and having Radahn as one of the final bosses in the DLC is just kind of sad, especially if the moveset is just reused moves from Godfrey/Sullyvahn/Base game Radahn.

Lore wise it contributes to the game world feeling smaller, ruins both Malenia and Radahn as characters, as this just makes them nothing but tools with no will of their own, and makes Miquella just a Griffith rip-off, and while I understand Miyazaki's fascination with Berskerk, that's just lame.

Hopefully I'm wrong about this too, but so far I'm very disappointed.

This is like halfway through the DLC, not the end.

[SunfireKnight86]

Originally posted by Aerieanei:

Originally posted by frowningmirror:

I hate to tell you this, but nearly every enemy has been reused in the base game going as far back as at least dark souls 1

Yeah I know what you mean, but they also made cut content finished and pasted it in here. Dark Souls 2 was supposed to have Horseback riding and now we have torrent. The Phalanx Hollows from Dark Souls 1 are in here too which were already recycled from the ones in Demon's Souls who were called Hoplite. You'll find them in Nokstella as a Shielded Silver Tear. The Red Wolf of Radagon is a recycled Boss from Dark Souls 3, the Great Wolf of Farron who never got finished until now. A lot of sounds from Demon's Souls did get recycled but that kind of adds to the Charm. I really missed those sounds in Demon's Souls Remake. But yeah there's so many enemies that are recycled. The DLC literally recycled Pontiff Sullyvahn from Dark Souls 3 as Rellana who has a similar name to Renalla. Even the Bloodhound knights are just a goofy version of the Long-arm Centipede enemies in Sekiro. The Crabs are obviously from Dark Souls 3. But they did add the new enemy to go with them like the Crayfish. Then you got the Omen guys in the Sewers and they are recycled from the Dark Souls 3 Ringed City who were the Herald Legion Knights who were also recycled as the Headless in Sekiro. But yeah I see where your coming because there's a lot of recycling in From games.

Oh man a series has similar enemies? Don't play Persona 1-4 if you liked 5 I guess.

[SunfireKnight86]

Originally posted by Aerieanei:

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

Oh man a series has similar enemies? Don't play Persona 1-4 if you liked 5 I guess.

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

Literally everyone knows you're lying.

Well he's not lying because enemies have been reused. It's not the idea of the enemy, it's that their assets have literally been reused like animations and AI. Sure the models are new and they may be a new animation for each one but they're still reused. But saying he's "lying" makes no sense because they literally are reused. Erdtree Avatar is literally just Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1 who has been reused in Dark Souls 3 as Stray Demon.

None of this is true. They didn't import assets from a 15 year old PS3 game, dude. You're making ♥♥♥♥ up.

[SunfireKnight86]

This is like when people who can't even tell you what a video game engine is say crap like "Bethesda is using a 30 year old engine!"

[hemorrhage911]

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

Originally posted by Aerieanei:

Well he's not lying because enemies have been reused. It's not the idea of the enemy, it's that their assets have literally been reused like animations and AI. Sure the models are new and they may be a new animation for each one but they're still reused. But saying he's "lying" makes no sense because they literally are reused. Erdtree Avatar is literally just Asylum Demon from Dark Souls 1 who has been reused in Dark Souls 3 as Stray Demon.

None of this is true. They didn't import assets from a 15 year old PS3 game, dude. You're making ♥♥♥♥ up.

Whether Erdtree Avatar is directly from DS1 or not, it was still taken from another game and reworked. You need to stop crying.

This isn't even going into the same audio tracks they have used over and over and over. How many times have they had the dying crow sound? Every dying demi-human in Elden Ring is a reworked sound of the freakin' hollows from DS2.

I understand some corner cutting is needed - but there are quite a few moments in their games it's like "Come on, make it a little less obvious....and maybe search out some new audio tracks"

[Ω Arkandor]

To hell with radahn and miquella, ALL i want is to fight the lord of frenzied flame and get the Frenzy flame Sun

[SunfireKnight86]

Originally posted by hemorrhage911:

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

None of this is true. They didn't import assets from a 15 year old PS3 game, dude. You're making ♥♥♥♥ up.

Whether Erdtree Avatar is directly from DS1 or not, it was still taken from another game and reworked. You need to stop crying.

This isn't even going into the same audio tracks they have used over and over and over. How many times have they had the dying crow sound? Every dying demi-human in Elden Ring is a reworked sound of the freakin' hollows from DS2.

I understand some corner cutting is needed - but there are quite a few moments in their games it's like "Come on, make it a little less obvious....and maybe search out some new audio tracks"

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

[NEGRO LANGA]

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

None of this is true. They didn't import assets from a 15 year old PS3 game, dude. You're making ♥♥♥♥ up.

Omenkillers are recycled Capra Demons, Banished Knights are recycled Lothric Knights, Erdtree Avatars are recycled Asylum Demons... I could go on and on but what's the point? you've already made up your mind, Fromsoft is perfect and they can do no wrong and we should all just shut up and eat up whatever recycled slop they sell us.

[hemorrhage911]

Originally posted by NEGRO LANGA:

Originally posted by SunfireKnight86:

None of this is true. They didn't import assets from a 15 year old PS3 game, dude. You're making ♥♥♥♥ up.

Omenkillers are recycled Capra Demons, Banished Knights are recycled Lothric Knights, Erdtree Avatars are recycled Asylum Demons... I could go on and on but what's the point? you've already made up your mind, Fromsoft is perfect and they can do no wrong and we should all just shut up and eat up whatever recycled slop they sell us.

I don't know what he's even crying about, it's not like ALL of these recycled assets are bad. I think the banished knights were reworked in a pretty good way, as well as the Omenkillers. The Erdtree Avatar is really just the most obvious rework.

The worst are, however, the Fanged Imps.

[Mecharion]

Originally posted by Key:

I have news. Read at your own risk.

I did some digging and I am now fairly sure that I was wrong.

The Radahn-Miquella boss fight leak seems to be very real after I found some more informations. These include screenshots of the remembrance, a photo of the screen with the remembrance on it, the map of the DLC, a review video showcasing Radahn's weapons emitting holy light, and the AMA of a few journalists who pretty much confirmed it in a roundabout way.

With that said, I remain of the opinion that it's a poor concept and having Radahn as one of the final bosses in the DLC is just kind of sad, especially if the moveset is just reused moves from Godfrey/Sullyvahn/Base game Radahn.

Lore wise it contributes to the game world feeling smaller, ruins both Malenia and Radahn as characters, as this just makes them nothing but tools with no will of their own, and makes Miquella just a Griffith rip-off, and while I understand Miyazaki's fascination with Berskerk, that's just lame.

Hopefully I'm wrong about this too, but so far I'm very disappointed.

Yea yea sure its real.. nice try.

Miquella has nothing - nothing - to do with radahn as a person.

The only connection is that miquellas plan to give godwin true death is tied to the stars which where hold in place by radahn. Thats why he has to be dead for the dlc.

This boss is fake.

[Phantom Limb]

Now I realy wonder what sorts of excuses people will be throwing around when dlc is released and all leaks are true?

[McJiggy]

Imagine if instead of Sister Friede in DS3's DLC you fought the Dancer of the Boreal Valley again or instead of Gael you fought the Abyss Watcher.

[NisseDood]

Originally posted by McJiggy:

Imagine if instead of Sister Friede in DS3's DLC you fought the Dancer of the Boreal Valley again or instead of Gael you fought the Abyss Watcher.

Everyone would defend it because reuse is only bad when Ds2 does it.

[Mecharion]

Originally posted by NisseDood:

Originally posted by McJiggy:

Imagine if instead of Sister Friede in DS3's DLC you fought the Dancer of the Boreal Valley again or instead of Gael you fought the Abyss Watcher.

Everyone would defend it because reuse is only bad when Ds2 does it.

Nope. Nobody would defend it.

Its a no go

[Bazongo]

Does this final boss look bad to anyone else? It looks like a fan project it's so lame.