DLC is expensive, and why that's a good thing

[A.K. Rowling]

See too many ungrateful comments regarding the price of the new DLC. This is a difficult time in the industry where we just aren't seeing too many good games anymore. The work ethic of new game developers just isn't what it used to be. So when they deliver an actual good product like this DLC, I think it's worth it to chip in and help support good game development. Look at what happened to new Pokemon games, they're awful now and then the DLC is just as bad. Nintendo is the real criminals I think.

[Mr_Blank]

I woulda paid 40 bucks for ringed city and ashes of ariandel, so by that logic I would pay 80 bucks for a dlc that according to Miyazaki is around the same size as limgrave. Considering his track record, and what we’ve seen, he is totally downplaying the true scale of shadow of the erdtree.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by A.K. Rowling:

See too many ungrateful comments regarding the price of the new DLC. This is a difficult time in the industry where we just aren't seeing too many good games anymore. The work ethic of new game developers just isn't what it used to be. So when they deliver an actual good product like this DLC, I think it's worth it to chip in and help support good game development. Look at what happened to new Pokemon games, they're awful now and then the DLC is just as bad. Nintendo is the real criminals I think.

Oh so you played the dlc for ER allready?

[brownie689]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by A.K. Rowling:

See too many ungrateful comments regarding the price of the new DLC. This is a difficult time in the industry where we just aren't seeing too many good games anymore. The work ethic of new game developers just isn't what it used to be. So when they deliver an actual good product like this DLC, I think it's worth it to chip in and help support good game development. Look at what happened to new Pokemon games, they're awful now and then the DLC is just as bad. Nintendo is the real criminals I think.

Oh so you played the dlc for ER allready?

we don't need to play the DLC to know it will be 10/10 game of the year material. This is Fromsoftware we are talking about. They literally ONLY make 10/10 games.

[echo_ML]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by A.K. Rowling:

See too many ungrateful comments regarding the price of the new DLC. This is a difficult time in the industry where we just aren't seeing too many good games anymore. The work ethic of new game developers just isn't what it used to be. So when they deliver an actual good product like this DLC, I think it's worth it to chip in and help support good game development. Look at what happened to new Pokemon games, they're awful now and then the DLC is just as bad. Nintendo is the real criminals I think.

Oh so you played the dlc for ER allready?

Yeah. Its super good, Messmer was really fun, almost harder than Malenia.

Open world is pretty big too, and the legacy dungeons were nice. My favorite was Blighted Sepulcher.

[CourtesyFlush09]

1. I actually think we are seeing many great games, especially from non-AAA studios. I'd even argue that 2023 was the best year for gaming in a long ass time.

2. It's way too soon to call this DLC good because, you know, it's not out yet.

3. Shadow of the Erdtree is objectively expensive, especially in comparison to previous Souls DLC.

[Sgt. Magnusson]

It's not expensive. Expansion packs were around $30-35 USD over 20 years ago. Some games today get expansion packs for $40, like WoW, ESO and FFXIV. People are either too young to know what expansion packs used to cost in the old days or they are too used to smaller and cheaper DLC.

[Sato]

People like nothing more than to complain, just block these accounts and enjoy the game

[A.K. Rowling]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by A.K. Rowling:

See too many ungrateful comments regarding the price of the new DLC. This is a difficult time in the industry where we just aren't seeing too many good games anymore. The work ethic of new game developers just isn't what it used to be. So when they deliver an actual good product like this DLC, I think it's worth it to chip in and help support good game development. Look at what happened to new Pokemon games, they're awful now and then the DLC is just as bad. Nintendo is the real criminals I think.

Oh so you played the dlc for ER allready?

It's Elden Ring bro

[CourtesyFlush09]

Originally posted by Lockhart:

It's not expensive. Expansion packs were around $30-35 USD over 20 years ago. Some games today get expansion packs for $40, like WoW, ESO and FFXIV.

Those are all MMOs. Elden Ring is not.

[CoolBruh.13B]

Originally posted by CourtesyFlush90:

1. I actually think we are seeing many great games, especially from non-AAA studios. I'd even argue that 2023 was the best year for gaming in a long ass time.

2. It's way too soon to call this DLC good because, you know, it's not out yet.

3. Shadow of the Erdtree is objectively expensive, especially in comparison to previous Souls DLC.

its also 3x bigger than dark souls DLCs what everyone needs to understand is the mass of this DLC expansion. If you take the size file from what dark souls DLCs are they are decently big but this is a whole other scale of DLC release. Dont under estimate FROM SOFTWARE they made souls-like what it is today 10/10

[Koala 4peace]

Originally posted by CoolBruh420:

its also 3x bigger than dark souls DLCs...

For now, unless you have played it, this is just From claim. Not saying it won't be, just that we cannot be sure.

[Sgt. Magnusson]

Originally posted by CourtesyFlush90:

Originally posted by Lockhart:

It's not expensive. Expansion packs were around $30-35 USD over 20 years ago. Some games today get expansion packs for $40, like WoW, ESO and FFXIV.

Those are all MMOs. Elden Ring is not.

You're right, FFXIV and WoW require you to pay a monthly subscription on top of the $40 cost of the expansion, making them even more expensive. ESO has 3 separate DLCs released during an expansion's life, so, in order to have all the content, you need to pay $95 USD to have everything.

Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction and Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne expansions were released over 20 years ago and both of them were around $30 USD. Did you expect more elaborate and costly expansions to be much cheaper than the ones released over 20 years ago?

[CourtesyFlush09]

Originally posted by Lockhart:

Originally posted by CourtesyFlush90:

Those are all MMOs. Elden Ring is not.

You're right, FFXIV and WoW require you to pay a monthly subscription on top of the $40 cost of the expansion, making them even more expensive. ESO has 3 separate DLCs released during an expansion's life, so, in order to have all the content, you need to pay $95 USD to have everything.

Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction and Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne expansions were released over 20 years ago and both of them were around $30 USD. Did you expect more elaborate and costly expansions to be much cheaper than the ones released over 20 years ago?

Fair enough. It's not like I'm not gonna buy the DLC; I'll be on it day 1. I'm just saying that if you ask any average Joe if $40 DLC for a $60 non-MMO game is expensive, they'll more than likely say yes.

[Xengre]

I see you are misusing the word "ungrateful". You should review why people take issue with the price. If you still don't understand then you need to review the definition of the word, too.

You assume the DLC will be good based on zero merit aside from possibly DS3 (and that is debatable, at least for the Ashes DLC depending on who you ask). I'm not saying it wont, but you should not blindly assume it will be amazing.

Work ethnic of developers has actually improved. The issues exist elsewhere but that is a deeper discussion than I'm willing to have here and it isn't even related to this topic so you were mistaken to even mention it as if related to the pricing.

The price ratio compared to the base game content is unquestionably off to a dumbfounding degree. Higher price also has never been shown to equate to better in this industry. In fact, there is actually ample record showing otherwise. Again, this doesn't mean this specific DLC will be bad or good, but the reasoning being used is poor.

You lost me on the Pokemon example. I've heard their more recent games aren't as popular, but I didn't even know they made DLC for them now. How does dev Gamefreak relate to Nintendo being criminals? Did Nintendo buy them recently or something?

Originally posted by brownie689:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Oh so you played the dlc for ER allready?

we don't need to play the DLC to know it will be 10/10 game of the year material. This is Fromsoftware we are talking about. They literally ONLY make 10/10 games.

Even as a joke I cringed reading this. Not because their games are bad but because there are absolutely people who put them at a masterful 10/10 flawless #1 gaming company and ER can do no wrongs.

Originally posted by Lockhart:

Originally posted by CourtesyFlush90:

Those are all MMOs. Elden Ring is not.

You're right, FFXIV and WoW require you to pay a monthly subscription on top of the $40 cost of the expansion, making them even more expensive. ESO has 3 separate DLCs released during an expansion's life, so, in order to have all the content, you need to pay $95 USD to have everything.

Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction and Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne expansions were released over 20 years ago and both of them were around $30 USD. Did you expect more elaborate and costly expansions to be much cheaper than the ones released over 20 years ago?

Don't those MMOs release regular content updates, not to mention expansions that utterly dwarf ER's DLC though? I know some MMORPGs like Black Desert could fit probably 10-20, maybe even 30 Elden Ring's in it and still gets major updates including major overhauls even.

[Senki]

Originally posted by CourtesyFlush90:

1. I actually think we are seeing many great games, especially from non-AAA studios. I'd even argue that 2023 was the best year for gaming in a long ass time.

2. It's way too soon to call this DLC good because, you know, it's not out yet.

3. Shadow of the Erdtree is objectively expensive, especially in comparison to previous Souls DLC.

2023 was better than 2022 and 2021 but that's about it. And even that is arguable cause I consider elden ring way better than anything that came out in 2023 so it was technically a better year for me.

2024 is already looking 10 times better than 2023 with dragon's dogma 2 and elden ring dlc alone

As for the dlc being expensive compared to previous souls dlc, yes, it's an open world area with at least 10 bosses and a ton of new weapons. Other DS dlcs were way smaller than that with only 2 or 3 bosses.