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Which Greatsword is the most powerful in the game?
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Kalamir 13. mar. kl. 12:45 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Tao314zdin:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Huhruhkayn:
Deaths Poker. Stack your INT, Buff your INT damage, cast the carpet of ghostflame, block the enemy/boss with a shield to keep them in place. Use with Rannis Dark Moon for an extra 30% damage. Better than Shield Poke Cheese IMO as you dont have to use stamina poking with shield up.
Isn't the DLC ash a straight upgrade on it?

By Upgrade, did you mean Downgrade?

I shall revel a little secret running under the hood for all Ashs Of War. Unique or Otherwise.
-All Ashs have a custom formula was calculating DMG.
-Generic Ashs either scale to Weapon Value or Stat scaling.
-Unique & a handfull of Weapon Specific Locked have their values adjusted manually.
-Death's Poker has a very High Base DMG to it's scaling of the AoW, making "the Frost Blanket" hit above it's pay grade. Hoever, the Generic AoW does not used this.
-The Reason why a lot of generic AoW on unique weapons feel so lack luster is because they are all set the Standard infusion. While having a INT stat the Carian Knight's Sword AoW: Carian Grandeur Barely registers the users INT in it's Ash. Unlike a Infusable weapon set to Magic.

AKA: the Death's Poker is a exception to the rule.
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Tao314zdin 13. mar. kl. 13:17 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Kalamir:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Tao314zdin:
Isn't the DLC ash a straight upgrade on it?

By Upgrade, did you mean Downgrade?

I shall revel a little secret running under the hood for all Ashs Of War. Unique or Otherwise.
-All Ashs have a custom formula was calculating DMG.
-Generic Ashs either scale to Weapon Value or Stat scaling.
-Unique & a handfull of Weapon Specific Locked have their values adjusted manually.
-Death's Poker has a very High Base DMG to it's scaling of the AoW, making "the Frost Blanket" hit above it's pay grade. Hoever, the Generic AoW does not used this.
-The Reason why a lot of generic AoW on unique weapons feel so lack luster is because they are all set the Standard infusion. While having a INT stat the Carian Knight's Sword AoW: Carian Grandeur Barely registers the users INT in it's Ash. Unlike a Infusable weapon set to Magic.

AKA: the Death's Poker is a exception to the rule.
I simply did not test it, just remembered it exists and given how bad of a weapon the poker otherwise is it sounded as a decent upgrade (since it can be placed on actual weapon). But yeah looking for the info a bit seem to confirm it is much weaker then the poker ash.

As for scaling, the ones which scale of the weapon AR are the ones (or parts of them, since individual moves have their own scaling) which include hitting with the weapon itself. For the rest they all have their custom scaling numbers. But from this info alone you can't (before actual testing) say what does more damage.
Huhruhkayn 13. mar. kl. 15:17 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Tao314zdin:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Kalamir:

By Upgrade, did you mean Downgrade?

I shall revel a little secret running under the hood for all Ashs Of War. Unique or Otherwise.
-All Ashs have a custom formula was calculating DMG.
-Generic Ashs either scale to Weapon Value or Stat scaling.
-Unique & a handfull of Weapon Specific Locked have their values adjusted manually.
-Death's Poker has a very High Base DMG to it's scaling of the AoW, making "the Frost Blanket" hit above it's pay grade. Hoever, the Generic AoW does not used this.
-The Reason why a lot of generic AoW on unique weapons feel so lack luster is because they are all set the Standard infusion. While having a INT stat the Carian Knight's Sword AoW: Carian Grandeur Barely registers the users INT in it's Ash. Unlike a Infusable weapon set to Magic.

AKA: the Death's Poker is a exception to the rule.
I simply did not test it, just remembered it exists and given how bad of a weapon the poker otherwise is it sounded as a decent upgrade (since it can be placed on actual weapon). But yeah looking for the info a bit seem to confirm it is much weaker then the poker ash.

As for scaling, the ones which scale of the weapon AR are the ones (or parts of them, since individual moves have their own scaling) which include hitting with the weapon itself. For the rest they all have their custom scaling numbers. But from this info alone you can't (before actual testing) say what does more damage.

I should add I only use Deaths Poker for the AoW, then switch to a magic infused weapon to deal weapon damage with.

Edit I switch between 3 different weapons depending on the target.

Edit 2, Deaths Poker is terrible early game. Just trying it now.
Sidst redigeret af Huhruhkayn; 13. mar. kl. 20:13
This question…. there is no best- it’s what you are best with.
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