Fromsoft peaked at Dark Souls III

[𝕭𝖊𝖑𝖒𝖔𝖓𝖙]

Literally, there isn't any boss dragon better than Midir, including DLC.
Lichdragon Fortissax sucks, feet simulator, barely any open windows to attack, just like bayle.
If you go for quality build and no casting, prepare for a very repetitive and boring gameplay.

Elden Ring was meant for the player to choose between int or faith along with your dex or str build, if you play as a classic Demon's Souls knight, you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

So much theatrical boss fights that gets pretty annoying if you limit your gameplay to only one weapon.

And the soundtracks...? totally forgettable.

[psilocybe]

I always disliked the midir fight.
Felt like a perfect representation of many flaws to the dark souls formula.

Giant obnoxious arena, with an enemy spamming fireballs.
Takes an entire stamina bar to run up to it.
After you've finally made it into range, the dragon jumps up and flies to the complete opposite side.

It was so poorly designed, in my opinion, that i made an entire character specifically for beating him quickly. All, to assist other players. So, that they wouldn't have had to suffer through the same experience.

But, so it is. FROM has never been very qualified with game-design.
I wish a 'good' company would acquire the dark souls ip from them.

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by psilocybe:

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+1, having to run up to Midir to bonk him until he flaps around was not fun. At all. Too much health for a predictable boss that spends too much time in the air.

I'd rather fight Kalameet or Sinh, any day.

[777]

The peak was reached in Dark Souls 2, when we were shown that there are several ways to complete the game, something new was added in NG+, and the ability to assemble a build for almost 80% of weapons. In DS 3, they removed a lot, and left only a linear level of 2 or 3 turns.

[Phirestar]

Originally posted by 𝕭𝖊𝖑𝖒𝖔𝖓𝖙:

Elden Ring was meant for the player to choose between int or faith along with your dex or str build, if you play as a classic Demon's Souls knight, you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Honestly, that’s probably one of my favorite aspects of Elden Ring. Magic and faith always felt like second class citizens in the older games, being nerfed in later games for being “too strong” and lacking the kind of variety that melee weapon classes have.

Being a mage in Elden Ring is awesome. You’ve got different classes of sorceries, like normal glintstone spells, gravitational spells, sword spells; you can fire spells from horseback, including shooting a massive ethereal bow; the spells themselves both look and feel powerful, like you’re actually doing something impressive, instead of just spamming a puny projectile.

It’s great. We finally have a proper class system where every playstyle is equal in power and fun factor. I wouldn’t call melee weak, you can certainly still succeed that way. Especially now, with the addition of stuff like ashes of war, mounted combat, jumping attacks that can be done anywhere, there’s so many ways to tackle melee builds.

[CazadorDeLobo]

Siegbrau at the very least is the best consumable across all similar titles

[mpcgannon]

Clowns are out tonight!

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by CazadorDeLobo:

Siegbrau at the very least is the best consumable across all similar titles

Raising a glass for the real OG o7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOCKz9H4uB8

[lmg]

well, for me, and a lot of others, bloodborne is the best they ever created, this type of game normally called soulsborne, and there a lot of souls only 1 borne. E Ring game play is a little towards to borne, not soul, btw, bb is ps exclusive, pc doesn’t have it.

[Gamerzilla]

Actual fun: DS1>BB>DS3>ER>DS2>Demon Souls>...............................................Sekiro?

[Senki]

well I do like some bosses in DS3 more than any in ER but overall I like ER more

DS3's build variety is pretty bad in comparison and the game feels a bit too linear

[unskilled-]

Dark Souls 1 was the peak.

Its been a slow decline ever since. If they brought back ninja rolling then it would peak again.

[Morbo]

Just one clown award after all that effort? awww man.

[nfinite.recursion]

I gave all my clowns to the old lady ringing the bell outside of Walmart.

[Kleerex]

DS3 was just a Bloodborne modpack, BB is where Fromsoftware's game design peaked. Maybe Sekiro was something new, but DS3 and ER are just Bloodborne reskins.

[Artek [General]]

Originally posted by psilocybe:

I always disliked the midir fight.
Felt like a perfect representation of many flaws to the dark souls formula.

Giant obnoxious arena, with an enemy spamming fireballs.
Takes an entire stamina bar to run up to it.
After you've finally made it into range, the dragon jumps up and flies to the complete opposite side.

It was so poorly designed, in my opinion, that i made an entire character specifically for beating him quickly. All, to assist other players. So, that they wouldn't have had to suffer through the same experience.

But, so it is. FROM has never been very qualified with game-design.
I wish a 'good' company would acquire the dark souls ip from them.

Eh, he wasn't that bad once you learn him. The marathon to catch up is a bit annoying, yes, but pretty much every dragon of theirs does that at some point.
The key was baiting him into committing to melee attacks and combos - at some point you will realize that he ends every combo by leaving his head in the same place, and after that discovery you can just land a fully charged R2 on him each time. His attack are well telegraphed with generic timings, so the fight just becomes an exercise in patience and rhytm. He's actually one of few bosses who unironically becomes much harder with summon assistance because he will keep getting distracted and thus your opportunities to hit his head decrease drastically. As far as fromsoft's dragon fights go - he's one of the better ones for sure.