HOW DOES THE CRUCIBLE TALISMAN WORK

[KingJooJooMonke]

No ♥♥♥♥ it reduces headshot damage

But does it decrease headshot damage from melee attacks? I've only found mixed answers

I swore it decreased the damage of Messmer's opening attack when hit on the head but I can't seem to proc the same effect on the Godrick Soldiers at Gatefront, no matter how much I try to get them and hit my face.

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Originally posted by KingJooJooMonke:

HOW DOES THE CRUCIBLE TALISMAN WORK

"It just works."
-Todd Miyazaki

[Greywander]

I've never actually used this talisman before, but I assumed it just disabled headshots entirely. So an arrow to the face would do the same as an arrow to anywhere else on your body.

If you can't get an enemy to trigger a headshot, it might be that that particular attack isn't able to get headshots, or it may be that the hitbox causes it to hit somewhere else before it makes contact with your head. Or, if the hitbox intersects with both your head and your body at the same time, it may default to treating it as a body shot rather than a headshot.

These are just my best guesses, though. I think it's going someone with more technical expertise extracting data from Souls games to answer this.

[KingJooJooMonke]

Originally posted by Greywander:

I've never actually used this talisman before, but I assumed it just disabled headshots entirely. So an arrow to the face would do the same as an arrow to anywhere else on your body.

If you can't get an enemy to trigger a headshot, it might be that that particular attack isn't able to get headshots, or it may be that the hitbox causes it to hit somewhere else before it makes contact with your head. Or, if the hitbox intersects with both your head and your body at the same time, it may default to treating it as a body shot rather than a headshot.

These are just my best guesses, though. I think it's going someone with more technical expertise extracting data from Souls games to answer this.

I believe certain enemies are just incapable of headshots because I tried on different soldiers at different angles to ensure my head got hit.

[Artek [General]]

The only things capable landing a headshot on players are physical ranged projectiles (arrows and bolts) and maybe some rare specific attacks with correct flag set on.
Generic melee attacks by both enemies and other players are incapable of triggering headshot. You can swing a straight sword in all and any direction at another player and it will never trigger the headshot effect.

The only thing I know that was capable of headshots was... Scythe in Dark Souls 3, specifically its Weapon Art (at least it said so in the description) . I literally cannot recall anything else since that to have the same effect.

[KingJooJooMonke]

Originally posted by Artek General:

The only things capable landing a headshot on players are physical ranged projectiles (arrows and bolts) and maybe some rare specific attacks with correct flag set on.
Generic melee attacks by both enemies and other players are incapable of triggering headshot. You can swing a straight sword in all and any direction at another player and it will never trigger the headshot effect.

The only thing I know that was capable of headshots was... Scythe in Dark Souls 3, specifically its Weapon Art (at least it said so in the description) . I literally cannot recall anything else since that to have the same effect.

I think Messmer's bomb is considered a bullet by the game which is why I took reduced damage. So if this is correct, anything just considered as a bullet takes reduced damage because technically it counts as a headshot even if it isn't actually doing anything.