Ranni Quest COMPLETELY broken for me

[ToCool74]

Hello, I've been at my wits end trying to figure out WHY my Ranni quest appears to be flat out broken. I have followed the questline guide to a tee so far and have met her at the Church of Elleh, befriended Blaidd, completed the festival alongside Blaidd by beating Radahn and yet still she will NOT show up at her Rise. I've tried all the solutions such as trying to use the Church of Vows for forgiveness (which it says I don't need) and I've already talked to Blaidd after we defeated Radahn and yet she still never shows up. Decided to use a cheat engine to locate and see just where she is spawned and weirdly enough it shows Ranni's Rise as her current location and in said engine you can even peak in on NPC exact locations and yet still she is not shown despite showing where she SHOULD be. Is there anything I could have missed or am I the only one who has ever had this issue?

[Greywander]

OP said they haven't talked to her at her Rise yet, so it's unlikely that they've given Ranni the Fingerslayer Blade. However, if they did give her the blade then yes, she no longer appears at the Rise anymore and OP needs to head to Renna's Rise to access the upper portion of Ainsel River.

I always talk to Ranni at her Rise before killing Radahn, and use her quest as the trigger for the Festival. I've never had any problems doing it this way. Just clear Caria Manor and talk to her before going to Altus. Even if you can still start her questline after killing Radahn, you'll miss out on a bunch of dialogue. Too late now, but this may help for future runs.

The other thing the OP might want to know is that they need to progress Seluvis's quest until they get the Magic Scorpion Charm before giving Ranni the Fingerslayer Blade, or you'll no longer be able to get the Magic Scorpion Charm on that playthrough.

[SoundsOfNight]

You probably need to talk to Jerren after the festival.

[Capt_Lycanthro]

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

I have followed the questline guide to a tee so far and have met her at the Church of Elleh, befriended Blaidd, completed the festival alongside Blaidd by beating Radahn and yet still she will NOT show up at her Rise.

The next step would be going to Nokron and getting the Finger-Slayer Dagger. She won't talk to you at the rise again until you do (blah blah enter my slumber blah blah.) Did you do that?

[BlackRock Saber]

no Jerren will be gone when returning to the festival I did the same thing as OP. when beating Rahdan go back and catch up with with Rogier's questline until you get to see his blood pool and get more information about how he died and let him sleep until you can get all his gear, then talk too Fia and do her questline until you get the completed cursemark. Last do the inverted tower so you get access to Renna's rise. finally go back back to to Ranni by then you should have the black blade. Remember don't just keep clicking make sure you exhausted all the speech so do this slow. If you miss out on just one dialogue you already messed up! So be patient. The other players above me gave you the rest of the questline to move forward.

[Duchess Thy Strength]

I mentioned 'giving her the Fingerslayer Blade' because it is the only 'intended' way for her to move from the Rise. And because OP mentioned 'giving her the Black Knifeprint' which is not meant for her and which IMO has a very similar icon to the Fingerslayer Blade (in comparison to other key items in the inventory).

But, I'll also add: you cannot get the Fingerslayer Blade without meeting her at her Rise and entering her service. In case you haven't entered her service the chest that contains the Fingerslayer Blade cannot be opened and the message you get when trying to open it is: "You are not destined to open this".

She should be at the rise even if not having talked to her at the Church of Elleh or to anyone related to her quest. Seems like something is really broken :/ Maybe some progression modifiers from CE?

[Arcade Bumstead]

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

Absolutely 0 chance given that its required she get the Black Knifeprint first

Wrong

[ToCool74]

Escrito originalmente por Arcade Bumstead:

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

Absolutely 0 chance given that its required she get the Black Knifeprint first

Wrong

Oh, then by all means enlighten us with the solution.

As I pointed out I have talked to her at the Church of Elleh, completed Blaidd's questline up until the Festival, beaten the festival/Radahn, and exhausted the Dialogue options with both Blaidd and Jerren after the festival.

So if this is wrong then give us the solution, how do I bypass this step and somehow open the chest in Nokron without giving her the Knifeprint first and having her send me to retrieve the blade proper?

And FYI I have tried opening the chest and it says I am unworthy.

[Greywander]

Escrito originalmente por Arcade Bumstead:

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

Absolutely 0 chance given that its required she get the Black Knifeprint first

Wrong

The Black Knifeprint is given to Rogier, not Ranni. After Rogier examines the knifeprint, he'll direct you to seek out Ranni, but the Black Knifeprint itself no longer has any use after Rogier examines it. You simply speak to Ranni, you don't give her the knifeprint. Rogier's questline is also optional for Ranni's quest; you can start Ranni's quest without interacting with Rogier at all.

[ToCool74]

Escrito originalmente por Greywander:

Escrito originalmente por Arcade Bumstead:

Wrong

The Black Knifeprint is given to Rogier, not Ranni. After Rogier examines the knifeprint, he'll direct you to seek out Ranni, but the Black Knifeprint itself no longer has any use after Rogier examines it. You simply speak to Ranni, you don't give her the knifeprint. Rogier's questline is also optional for Ranni's quest; you can start Ranni's quest without interacting with Rogier at all.

I know this, I have pointed it out in this topic multiple times I have done the Rogier part of it, the main and absolute core issue is what comes AFTER he sends me to Ranni and thats where I am.

[Greywander]

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

I know this, I have pointed it out in this topic multiple times I have done the Rogier part of it, the main and absolute core issue is what comes AFTER he sends me to Ranni and thats where I am.

Yeah, I was responding to Arcade Bumstead.

I wish I had an answer for you. I do see people saying online that Ranni's quest can be started after killing Radahn, but I have no idea why Ranni isn't showing up for you. I've also never started Ranni's questline after killing Radahn, I always start the quest first. And it sounds like you've already checked most of the things that might be causing the issue.

Have you tried talking to Iji? What about checking the Forlorn Hound Evergaol in Limgrave (same one where you fought Darriwil)?

[Norm Macdonald's Ghost]

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

Escrito originalmente por Greywander:

The Black Knifeprint is given to Rogier, not Ranni. After Rogier examines the knifeprint, he'll direct you to seek out Ranni, but the Black Knifeprint itself no longer has any use after Rogier examines it. You simply speak to Ranni, you don't give her the knifeprint. Rogier's questline is also optional for Ranni's quest; you can start Ranni's quest without interacting with Rogier at all.

I know this, I have pointed it out in this topic multiple times I have done the Rogier part of it, the main and absolute core issue is what comes AFTER he sends me to Ranni and thats where I am.

Just carry on to Nokron.

[ToCool74]

Escrito originalmente por Norm Macdonald's Ghost:

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

I know this, I have pointed it out in this topic multiple times I have done the Rogier part of it, the main and absolute core issue is what comes AFTER he sends me to Ranni and thats where I am.

Just carry on to Nokron.

4 comments up and you will see that I have already tried opening the chest in Nokron, its a no go. The issue has never been getting to Nokron itself but instead opening the chest tied to her questline.

[SoundsOfNight]

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

Escrito originalmente por Norm Macdonald's Ghost:

Just carry on to Nokron.

4 comments up and you will see that I have already tried opening the chest in Nokron, its a no go. The issue has never been getting to Nokron itself but instead opening the chest tied to her questline.

Then you're Fd. Sorry.

[ToCool74]

Escrito originalmente por Greywander:

Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

I know this, I have pointed it out in this topic multiple times I have done the Rogier part of it, the main and absolute core issue is what comes AFTER he sends me to Ranni and thats where I am.

Yeah, I was responding to Arcade Bumstead.

I wish I had an answer for you. I do see people saying online that Ranni's quest can be started after killing Radahn, but I have no idea why Ranni isn't showing up for you. I've also never started Ranni's questline after killing Radahn, I always start the quest first. And it sounds like you've already checked most of the things that might be causing the issue.

Have you tried talking to Iji? What about checking the Forlorn Hound Evergaol in Limgrave (same one where you fought Darriwil)?

Iji is still in blacksmith mode siting where you first find him and he has not locked up Blaidd due to this being something that can only happen after talking to Ranni and her friends (which includes him and Blaidd) within Ranni's rise .

[ToCool74]

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Escrito originalmente por ToCool74:

4 comments up and you will see that I have already tried opening the chest in Nokron, its a no go. The issue has never been getting to Nokron itself but instead opening the chest tied to her questline.

Then you're Fd. Sorry.

Figured as much a day ago, my main thing was trying to figure out where I went wrong and sadly it seems nobody can give a answer.